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397 JOURNAL of the PROCEEDINGS and Debates

in the POLITICAL CLUB, continued from Page 360. I fall now begin to give you an Ac- peace that has been concluded, be

count of some of the most remark- cause neither I, nor any gentleman able Debates we had in our Club in this house, can as yet have any last Winter, according to the Order parliamentary knowledge of that of Time in which they happened ; treaty, and because, from all the and in this Order 1 muft begin with knowledge I have of it, I think it that we had upon the Address pro- A the worst of all the bad treaties Engposed to be presented to his Majesty, land ever made. The conclusion at the Beginning of laft Sefion, of it may therefore have been newhich Address your Readers may cessary, but I shall never agree to fee in your Magazine for last Year, call it happy; and from all the lights

moft gentlemen in this house can The Substance of this Address being, as have, I am sure, they cannot say,

usual, proposed in our Club by Way B that this nation was at that time unof Motion, which Motion was this

der sort of necessity to conclude Year made by Afranius Burrhus, a peace. and seconded by M. Horatius Pul- I shall admit, Sir, that our allies villus ; the first that spoke against the Dutch had been, by the pufillait was C. Numisius, whose Speech nimous conduct of their former goupon this Occasion was in Sub- vernment, brought into some danger; fiance as follows, viz.

C but their government was then chanMr. President,

ged, and was lodged in such hands

as would have exerted the whole SIR,

strength of that powerful republick, HE practice of compli- in the most vigorous and effectual

menting the ministers, by manner. Tho' their strong town of way

of an address to our Maestricht had been taken, which sovereign, at the beginning of every D would have required some weeks, feffion, has obtained for so many they had many other well fortified years, that I despair of success in

frontier places, which the enemy any opposition I can make to the ad

must have taken before they could dress now proposed. I do not there

make an impression upon any vital fore rise up to offer any amendment, part of that republick ; and before but to declare in the moit

open manner

half of them could have been taken, my being disatisfied with the greatest E the Russian troops could have arpart of the noble lord's motion, rived, which would have made our which I think great deal too long army at least equal to the French, and too particular. I should be as

and furnished the royal commander rendy as any gentleman in this house

with an opportunity he never had to join in returning his majesty our

before, of fighting the enemy upon unfeigned thanks for his most gra- equal terms, in which case he might cous speech from the throne, and F probably have obtained as compleac in congratulating him upon his fafe a victory over the French, as he had and happy return to these king- before obtained over the rebels at the doms; but I cannot give my allent battle of Culloden; for I must observe, to the inserting of any words in our the more fortified towns the French address, which may imply the most

had besieged and taken, the more diftant approbation of the treaty of G they would have weakened their September, 1749.



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army, the farther they would have what publick expences have been been removed from any safe retreat, reduced, or at what time they were and consequently their defeat would reduced? We may perhaps have have been not only the more pro- heard something of this from our bable, but the more fatal.

publick news papers, or from the The danger therefore, Sir, which tittle tattle of our under ministers, the Dutch were exposed to, could A which is a worse authority ; but not lay us under any necesity of neither of these, surely, can be a concluding an immediate peace. It proper authority whereon to found might have been a reason for our an address of parliament ; and even noi insisting upon such honourable from these we cannot say, that those terms, or such a definitive treaty, reductions, if any, have been made as we might otherwise have done ; with unusual dispatch, for, I believe, but will any one say, that the terms B greater reductions were made, and were honourable, when we not only made with as much dispatch, at the obliged ourselves to deliver up the end both of K. William's and queen only conquest we had made during Anne's war. Besides, I must observe, the war, but gave hostages for the that as to our foreign subsidies, which performance of that obligation? Can are of all others the moft grievous we call a treaty definitive, when no expence to this nation, most of them one of those points are so much as C are of such a nature, that they neither mentioned, which gave rise to the have been nor can be reduced for a war between us and Spain? Can we year or two to come, which ought say that all our allies have concurred to have been an argument for conwithout reserve, when it is so no- tinuing the war a year or two longer, torious, that both the queen of Hun- if we had the least prospect of better gary and king Sardinia, our princi- success; and consequently is an argupal allies in the war, were forced to D ment for our not being so ready to exconcur, because they saw us re- tol the happy conclusion of the peace. solved to defert them if they did As to the other part of this paranot? Can we admire the wisdom of graph, Sir, by which we are to applaud our ministers in reconciling and ad- the wisdom of our minifters in recomjufting so many jarring interests, mending to us ceconomy, I can fee when no such interests have been no foundation for it in the speech, any other way reconciled, than by E which is always in this house fup. compelling our allies to give up posed to be the speech of the minifevery thing the French or their allies

ters; for in no part of that speech could alk?

can I find that they have recomSir, when I consider these things, mended any such thing to us : InI am astonished how the noble lord deed, it would have been ridiculous could think of offering fuch a pa- if they had : It is our business to ragraph as a part of our address up. F grant, it is their business and duty on this occasion. If we agree to it, to manage what we grant, with we shall become the scoff of all the

æconomy. Our being cautious ard courts abroad, and of all men of sparing in our grants, may in some sense at home, who have any know- sense be called æconomy, and it is ledge of foreign affairs.

a sort of æconomy, which I wish Then, Sir, with regard to the we would practise more than we next paragraph proposed, how can G have done of late years; but it is we pretend to say, that the ministers a sort of economy that never was, have taken the first opportunity to nor, I believe, ever will be recomreduce the publick expences, or that mended to parliament by ministers, it has been done with unusual dif- and by the present as little as by any patch, when we know nothing of of their predecessors,


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What our ministers mean, Sir, by is eat up by the great number of of. recommending to us the improve. ficers, and the great salaries allow'd ment of the revenue, is something by our miniters to those they employ beyond my comprehension. I hope, in raising and collecting fuch taxes? they do not mean to defire us to im- but why should I say employ, when pose any new taxes upon the people, it is so well known that we have or to increase any of the old, or to A many officers with great salaries and pass any more severe and dangerous perquifites, who have no employlaws for raising our taxes than those ment, because they get some low we have now subsisting; and yet one fellow to do the whole duty of the of these they must certainly mean,

office for one tenth or one twenor they mean nothing, because these tieth part of the salary and perquie are the only methods for improving fites ? the revenue, in which the parliament B Then, Sir, as to what the noble can have any necessary concern. lord proposes with regard to the braThere is, indeed, another method very of our troops both by sea and which the ministers have power to

land : I shall most readily agree to take without our concurrence, and celebrate it in our address to the by which the net produce of all our throne; but if we do, I think, we taxes might be very much increased : fhould take proper notice of the I mean that of reducing the number C conduct which render'd that bravery of officers employed in collecting the ineffettual by sea, except what hap. revenue, and diminishing the salaries pen’d the very last year of the war, of the rest. This, I say, is what the and which by land made it turn to ministers may do without our con- their own destruction, from the first currence, and what ought to be massacre at Fontenoy to the last at Le done; for I may venture to say in Val. No one will say, that this general, that there is no country in D could be owing to any misconduct the world, where there is so little to in the royal cummander, therefore do, and so much to be got by serving it could be owing to nothing but the the publick. It is this that makes fuperior numbers of the enemy, all people so fond of getting into which, our ministers ought to have publick office; and it is this that known, and ought in time to have gives force to corruption, and spreads provided against ; for war is not now it so universally among the people. E to be carried on as it was in former Therefore, if we are resolved to pre- days, when battles were fought with serve our independency and our seats militia on both fides, just taken from in this house, for, I hope, there are the plough and brought to action, none within these walls, that came and when 10,000 brave men might here by corruption, we ought to perhaps put an army of 100,000 to think of this method for improving fight, because when any one part of the publick revenue; and if we find F such a great army was routed, or that our ministers do not foon go thrown into confusion, the rest were about it of themselves, we ought, I generally seized with a panick, and hope, some future session even of this ran away before the approach of dan, parliament will set on foot an inqui. ger : Whereas now, that war is carry into the business as well as salaries ried on with regular troops on both of all publick officers, and compel sides, the rout or confusion of one our minifters by our authority to do G part of an army makes no impresiiwhat they may and ought to do on upon the reft, unless it be to make without our concurrence ; for what them march up with the more speed fignifies our loading the people with to the relief of their companions ; taxes, when ane half of the produce therefore an army much more nu

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