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circumstance of the life and de- ' would state to the House reasons meanor of the princess of Wales, to show that some step must be since her arrival in this country. adopted to bring the matter to Did the noble lord know of this issue. Of the remainder of the Did the lord-chancellor know of hon. gentleman's speech it is imit? If not, who are the secret ad. possible to give an intelligible visers of the Prince Regent? Mr. abridgment in our allotted com: Whitbread then desired to call the pass ; we shall therefore only noattention of the House to another tice some of the most remarkable circumstance. In the Morning Post circumstances of the debate, and and Morning Herald of last Satur- its final result. Mr. Whitbread day were published the depositions was led, in the course of discussion, of lady Douglas. In the latter of to take a view of the evidence these papers, edited by a rev. gen. against the princess of Wales, as tleman who had lately been distin- it had been published, and also, as guished by honours and church it appeared in a paper which had preferments, after these deposi- been put into his hands that morotions, followed a train of disgusting ing, professing to contain an auand atrocious documents,the false- thentic copy of the examination of hood of which is known and ac Mrs. Lisle, a respectable lady who knowledged, and which have been had been long about the princess's put into the shape of a volume person. On this he made several bearing the name of the late Mr. free strictures, tending to show, Perceval, by whom the press is that if the questions put to her had said to have been corrected. That appeared, the answers would often righthon. gentleman thought, that have borne a different aspect. In for the sake of the princess's justi- fine, after solemnly calling upon fication it was necessary to submit that house, the representatives of these details to the public, and con- the people of England, to become sequently prepared a comment to the protectors of an innocent, traexpose the folsehood of the story duced, and defenceless stranger, and the villainy of those by whom he moved the following resolution: it had been raised; but now that " That an humble address be prehe is dead, and her royal highness sented to his royal highness the has been declared innocent by two Prince Regent, expressive of the cabinets,these indecentstatements deep concern and indignation with are given to the public eye. After which this House has seen publisome further observations on the cations so insulting to the honour hardships to which the princess was and dignity of his majesty's royal subjected, Mr. Whitbreadproceed- family,
so offensive to decency and ed to say,that having been inform- good morals, and so painful to the ed that a prosecution for perjury feelings of all his majesty's loyal would not lie, or that it would be subjects; and that this House impossible to produce such legal humbly requests that his royal proof as would amount to a con- highness will give directions that viction, he should forego his in- proper measures may be taken to. tended motion for prosecuting sir discover and bring to justice all the John and lady Douglas ; but he persons concerned in committing
or procuring to be committed $0 The remarks which had been high an offence, and for prevent- made by Mr. Whitbread in conseing the repetition or continuance quence of reading the professed of such publications."
authentic copy of Mrs. Lisle's Lord Castlereagh, in the begin- examination, occasioned a remarkning of his reply, having said that able conversation in the House of the hon. gentleman, under the Lords on March 22nd, in which mask of defending the princess of house nothing had hitherto passed Wales, had indulged himself in a relative to the subject of the prin. most personal, improper, illiberal, cess of Wales. unfair, and unparliamentary at Lord Ellenborough rose, and tack on the Prince Regent, his after an introduction of great sowords were taken down, and an lemnity said, that in the case alaltercation ensued, which was ter luded to, the persons intrusted minated by an explanation. His with the commission were charged lordship then proceeded to make with having fabricated an upauremarks on the motion and the thorised document, purporting to speech of the mover, and repeated relate what was not given in evihis reasons for not giving answers dence, and to suppress what was to the questions put to him, and given. “ This accusation, (said his for thinking that the House was lordship,) is as false as hell in every not called upon to interfere in part." He then proceeded to give this matter.
an account of the mode in which After several other members had
every thing had been taken down spoken in the debate, Mr. Tierney from the mouth of the witness, moved as an amendment to Mr. and afterwards read over to, and Whitbread's motion (with his ac subscribed by her. He spoke of quiescence), "That the printer the folly and ignorance of supposand publisher of the Morning Posting that the testimony of witnesses and of the Morning Herald, do at. should be recorded in the
of tend at the bar of this House to question and answer ; and conmorrow, to answer by whose au cluded a speech of great energy, thority they had published the de- ' by again positively denying the positions before the privy-council, truth of the imputations thrown . and from whom they had received upon the commissioners. them.”
He was followed by the other Mr. Canning made a speech, noble lords who composed this which, by its moderate tone, and commission, Erskine, Spencer,and his declaration, that as far as he Grenville, each of whom, in strong was concerned, the minutes of the terms, asserted the fairness and council in 1807, were a perfect correctness with which the eviacquittal of her royal highness, dence had been taken and recordseemed to give general satisfac- ed, and disclaimed every partial tion.
feeling on the occasion. Mr. Whitbread concluded the Lord Moira afterwards rose to debate by his reply; and the ques- exculpate himself from the charge tion being put, the motion was of unfairness in the examination negatived without a division. of a female servant of the princess,
whose evidence was contradicted royal highness's advisers had long by one of the medical attendants. preserved an absolute silence con
Mr. Whitbread, on the evening cerning it, “a forbearance only to of the same day, took notice of the be solved by their being too cauattack which had been made upon tious to touch on the point while him in the other house, and de- Kenny was alive.” In another clared his intention of sending the passage of the letter it was stated, paper alluded to, to Mrs. Lisle, in that Partridge, lord Eardley's pororder to obtain her avowal or dis- ter, was known to be entirely deavowal of its authenticity. On the voted to the princess. As lord following day, he produced to the Moira was about to leave England, House the answer he had received Mr. Whitbread thought that he from that lady, which was an ex- ought to be called upon for an plicit acknowledgment that the explicit declaration of his meaning paper was a correct copy of one in these passages; and he therefore she had written from her recollec- moved, “ That a message be sent tion, immediately after she had to the lords, requesting their lordbeen examined, and of which she ships to grant permission to the had transmitted a copy to the prin- earl of Moira to attend at the bar cess of Wales at her command. of this House for the purpose of Mr. Whitbread now considered being examined as to his knowhimself as entirely. cleared from ledge of certain circumstances the imputation of having been connected with the conduct of imposed upon by the paper in her royal highness the princess of question; and he said, that if the Wales.” same thing presented itself to him The Speaker expressed his at the present moment, he would doubts concerning the parliafollow the very same course he mentary usage with respect to had done, and throw himself on such a motion, there being no the justice, and candour of the matter then pending before the public.
House on which the evidence of a From the conversation that fol. noble lord was required; and he lowed, it however appeared, that thought that their lordships would the sense of even the friends of undoubtedly reject the applicathe hon. gentleman was, that his tion. zeal had led him in this instance The same being the opinion of to pass the bounds of propriety. other members, and there appear
On March 31st, Mr. Whitbread ing a general disinclination in the rose in the House to call its atten. House to renew the discussions on tion to a letter which had appeared this subject, Mr. Whitbread would in the public papers from lord not press a division, and the quesMoira to a member of the grand tion for the order of the day was Jodge of Free Masons, in which read and carried. were some observations on the Thus terminated all the parliaevidence of one Kenny, since dead, mentary proceedings relative to ending with the remark, that her the case of the princess of Wales.
Catholic Question-Mr. Grattan's Motion for a Committee of the whole
House to take the Subject into Consideration, carried.--His Resolution carried. His Bill for the Removal of Disqualifications, &c. brought in and debated.- Sir J. C. Hippisley's Motion for a select Committee rejected.- Second Reading of Mr. Grattan's Bill.—Call of the House and the first Clause debated.- Rejected, and the Bill abandoned.
tary session in the summer sections of the Bill of Rights havof the last year, the House of ing been read on the motion of Commons, by a majority of more Mr. Yorke, Mr. Grattan rose and than two to one, had agreed to a said, he was happy that the hon. resolution for taking into consi- gentleman had caused those pasderation the affairs of the Irish sages to be read from the Bill of Catholies earlyin the next session; Rights, since he was decidedly of whilst the House of Lords had re- opinion that the qualifications enujected a motion for a similar resó merated in them as indispensable lution by a majority of one. From accompanimentsofthe sovereignty, that time great activity had been of this empire, ought to form the shown by the different parties in preamble of any bill introduced promoting their several views; into parliament for the relief of and it has already been noticed, the Roman Catholics. After dethat the tables of both Houses claring that his purpose was, to were crowded with petitions on move for a committee of the House the subject, from the time of the in pursuance of the resolution first meeting of parliament in this which, though made by a former year, after the recess. The tenor parliament, he did not think he of the great majority of these was guilty of an impropriety in petitions was unfavourable to the referring to, Mr. G. proceeded to Catholic claims; and it soon be- make some observations on the pecame manifest that the friends to titions which had been presented their cause would have a hard against the claims of the Catholics. battle to sustain.
He first objected to the manner in The parliamentary discussion of which, particularly in Ireland, they this important subject, so often had been obtained. They had ofalready discussed that there would ten been the consequence of a reseem nothing left for farther ar- quisition to the sheriffs of the regument, recommenced with Mr. spective counties to call a meetGrattan's mation on Feb. 25th, foring of the Protestant inhabitants. a committee on the claims of the Now he thought it exceedingly ob
jectionable for a public officer to granting to the Catholics their call people together in sects, and claims, to that of refusing them, to give to a private and party meet the hon. gentleman proceeded ing the authority of a publicassem “But (say the Anti-catholics) tobly. He also objected to the call- leration in England is already ing of one part of his majesty's greater than in any other country.” subjectsto petition against another, I know very well that the princiespecially to their petitioning an- ples of every established church other country against the liberties are in some degree hostile to toleof their own. One of the first ob- ration: there is scarcely any esservations in these petitions is, that tablished church which will tolethe tone which the Catholics have rate so extensively and liberally as assumed renders it unwise to grant a wise parliament ought to do; but their claims. But this is not the when it is maintained that tole. matter in question. The question ration in England exceeds that of is one of allegiance; and it may any other country, that it is perbe asked, Can you in any of their fect, I must declare my opinion to proceedings charge the Catholics be the reverse. Mr. Grattan then with want of allegiance? The brought the instances of France Anti-catholios say, that the Catho- and Hungary, in which, Catholic lics desire political power. Why governments have given not only should they not? Why should toleration but qualification; wherethey be sentenced to utter and as ours have given the former hopeless exclusion from all politi- without the latter, and has accomcal power? But in fact it is not panied its toleration with pains and power that they desire, but pro- penalties. He then entered upon tection. They desire not to be that ground of debate concerning taxed without their own consent; the allegiance capable of being not to be tried by persons who are rendered by Catholic subjects to a not only partisans, but are actually Protestant government, which has covenanted against them. They so often been matter of contest; wish only for their liberties. They and he concluded with moving do not demand this or that office, " that this House will resolve itself 'but to possess their just civil quảa into a committee of the whole lifications. It is the Protestants House, to take into its most sewho ask for power. They desire rious consideration the state of the by their petitions to keep all the laws affecting his majesty's Roman patronage of Ireland in their hands; Catholic subjects in Great Britain to maintain a continued ascendan- and Ireland, with a view to such a cy; to govern the other sects of final and conciliatory adjustment the country.
The tendency of as may be conducive to the peace their argument is, that we ought to and strength of the United Kinghave a church government. But dom, to the stability of the Propurs is not a church government; testant establishment, and to the it is a representative government, general satisfaction and concord of including all classes and religions. all classes of his majesty's sub
After some further observations jects.” to show the superior policy of Of the subsequent debate, when