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into an argument, and stated a dis- lated by those most in the habit of tinction to which his noble friend opposing ministers. (Lord Castlereagh) had not alluded. An animated discussion followed, The right honourable gentleman had in which Mr Bankes, Mr Huskisson, stated, that the funds were of two Lord Compton, the Solicitor-Genekinds; L. 60,000 accruing from the ral, and several other members took grant of Parliament, and L. 10,000 part; and the house baving divided, from the revenue of the Duchy of the original motion was carried by a Lancaster. The amount was thus majority of 95, the Ayes being 281, L.70,000; but what were the bur- and the Noes 186. dens with which it was charged? The On the 23d the resolutions respectpayment of medical attendance was ing the Windsor establishment were L. 28,000; the sums given in pen- put seriatim, and agreed to, with litsions, salaries, charities, and under tle or no discussion, in a Committee other heads, by his Majesty, amount of the whole House. On the 25th ed to L. 30,000; so that here 1.58,000, Lord Castlereagh moved that the reor nearly the whole of the grant of port of the Committee on the Windo Parliament(L.60,000) was disposedof. sor establishment be brought up; If these charges absorbed the whole when a long, and not very interestof the L.60,000 granted by Parlia. ing discussion took place on the subment, except L. 2000, whence were ject of granting L. 10,000 to his the L.10,000 to the custos to come ? Royal Highness the Duke of York Were his allowances to be imposed as custos persona. Mr Curwen sta. upon the revenue of the Duchy of ted, that he had hoped his Royal Lancaster ? But these revenues were Highness would have entered his disnot a parliamentary grant; they did claimer against the grant in quesnot depend upon Parliament at all; tion, as such a measure would have they had been in the power and at given great satisfaction both within the disposal of the Crown ever since and without the walls of Parliament; the reign of Edward IV. They were that, as his Royal Highness received as clearly private property as the es- L. 4000 a-year as Commander.in. tate of any gentleman was his pri- Chief, which, with the emoluments yate property. If, then, this house of that office, could not make less had always protected private proper. than L.10,000 a-year, besides a party-if it had always supported vest- liamentary grant of L.20,000 a-year ed rights – if even when the grant as Duke of York, and various other had taken place in times of trouble sums, his yearly income could not and disturbance, it guarded it from be estimated at less than L.60,000 ; violation on account

of its prescrip- that there was, therefore, no defitive durdation, would it not reject a ciency of income ; that the country proposition like that of the right had a right to expect some little sahonourable gentleman, as destruc- crifice on the part of his Royal Hightive of the wise and just principles ness as custos ; that he could see no on which it had formerly acted ? expenses attending his new office exWould it not do so with the more a. cept that of posting twice a-week to lacrity, when it considered that the Windsor, which could hardly amount privy purse was formerly regarded at the utmost to more than L.1000 aas so sacred in the most stormy pe- year; and that, considering how comriods of party warfare, that it had ne. plete the revenue of his Royal Highver before been attempted to be vio- ness was from public emoluments, he


could not consent to grant him one state the fact, that the Royal Duke shilling on the present occasion. Mr was now discharging the duties of Denman followed a similar course of custos without any knowledge of the observation, and went at consider- course to be taken by the house. able length into those views of the An amendment that L. 5000 per question which had been adopted by annum be granted instead of L.10,000 the gentlemen on his side of the per annum having been moved by house ; resting chiefly upon the com

Mr Williams, called up Mr Long munication made to the house by his Wellesley, Lord Ebrington, Lord Royal Highness, which he (Mr D.) Carhampton, Mr Tierney, and Mr considered tantamount to a refusal Canning, who made a most able, to accept the proposed grant on the eloquent, and ingenious speech in part of the Royal Duke, and upon defence of the proposed grant, the principle that the L.10,000 were and in reply to all the speakers who to be given to the Duke for perform- had preceded him in the debate. ing duties which as a son he was The gentlemen on the other side bound to perform; and for no better of the house had not, he said, treated reason but because the same sum had the present question fairly. They in 1812, been granted to the late had argued, as if the custos were a Queen. The honourable and learn- new office, with L. 10,000 a-year ed gentleman then went over the about to be added to it; but the usual topics of economy, and the dis- case was very different. It was tressed state of the country, making question of reducing an old establishvarious suppositions as to what would ment, not of making a new one. It have been the feelings of the mo- was their present business not to narch, had he actually been in a con- build, but to pull down; at the same dition to think and feel on that or time it was their duty not to make any other subject, and as to what ac- unseemly rents in the edifice, nor to tually were the feelings of the Duke let in the unhallowed gaze of vulhimself, and the Royal person at the gar curiosity on the naked wretchedhead of the Government; and con- ness of unsheltered majesty. It had cluded by declaring his opinion that been seen too, he believed, for the the grant would be disgraceful to first time by several persons, that the house, and a reproach to his the repairs of Windsor Castle alone Royal Highness.

amounted to L. 20,000 a-year, leavIn reply to these observations Mring only L. 30,000 for the other exF. Robinson remarked, that the penses of the establishment. No question was, whether, when an of- could grudge that sum of fice of new duties was imposed of L. 20,000, whether it were for the necessity upon the Duke of York, purpose of maintaining so fit a shrine he ought to have no emolument for for the sacred relic that was enperforming that office, because he closed within it, or for the sake of had emoluments for performing other preserving so venerable a monument duties? It seemed to him to be no of ancient magnificence and taste, reason for refusing the present grant The whole question was, whether in that the Royal Duke had other comparison with the general reducemoluments from other offices. No tion, such a reduction had also taken man was more ready than the Duke place in the charge for the custos, of York to make any proper sacri. as was consistent with the office, and fices; as a proof of which he might with the just expectations of the


country; or whether it was the duty tions. He trusted that the right of Parliament to cut off the L.10,000 honourable gentleman (Mr Tierney,) also; for as to offering any smaller with all bis laudable zeal for ecosum, he supposed no one would per. nomy, would not turn round upon sist in such an offensive suggestion. them, and say that he had approved And here he must say, in answer to of the appointment of his Royal the remark that this sum would be Higliness to this office, because in a burden to the country, that al- him he expected to get a cheap custhough what was not saved when it tos. Had any bargain or compromise might be saved was worthy of the been in contemplation, a different name of extravagance, yet it could course would have been pursued. Dot in fairness be called a burden. But the fact was, that the office had He would say but a few words on the been accepted without hope or asquestion of the responsibility of the surance; it being left unconditioncastes, on which the right honourable ally to the House of Commons, to gentleman had placed so much re- determine whether they would vote kance. As a legal question, he was to his Royal Highness the same pronot prepared to argue it, nor did he vision which had been granted to suppose that many precedents ex. his royal mother for the discharge isted on the subject ; but looking at of the same trust. Let them pay the question with the eye of reason. him, therefore, or pay him not, the able analogy, he should certainly say country was already sure of his serthat a custos, though a Queen con- vices. With respect to the argusort, was a responsible person. He ment of the right honourable gencould not forget that 'Queens had tleman, (Mr Tierney,) if he underbeen appointed Regent, and surely stood it aright, the privy purse, not that was an office of responsibility. by any inherent virtue belonging to He would not discuss the question, it, but from the manner in which it therefore, whether L. 10,000, as pro- had been dealt with by successive posed in the original resolution, or parliaments, had become the peculiar L. 5,000, as recommended in the and private property of the crown. amendment, or L. 1,500, as suggest. It was originally a part of the civil ed by the right honourable gentle. list, without any character of sancti. man, was the most fit and proper ty attached to it. But at the besum. If, as had been urged by an ginning of the present reign, as parhonourable gentleman (Mr W. Long liament interfered to regulate the Wellesley,) there existed any incom- civil list, they recognised private patibility between the office of com- property in the King. The first of mander-in-chief and that of custos, these distinct acknowledgments was and that it must be difficult for any in 1780, in a proceedinig of which one person to discharge the duties Mr Burke was ihe mover; and the of both, this was an argument against second in the act of 1782, which he the appointment of his Royal High. introduced. In 1786 a further acness to the latter office. It should knowledgment was made, and folhave been advanced when the bill lowed up by the Regency Act of was first brought down to them from 1788. All these various recognitions the other house ; and the objection of the same principle were sanction. plainly stated, that his Royal High- ed and adopted by the act of 1811; sess's time was sufficiently engaged and the existence of private property in the exercise of his military func. was specifically declared by the act




passed in 1799, to enable the King mind no justification for doing him a to dispose of, and devise it by will. wrong. It was not possible for him By the final arrangement made by to forget what that King had been, Parliament in 1812, the different dis- in the contemplation of what he now posals already made out of this fund One half of that period dur. were confirmed, and the residue set ing which the House of Brunswick apart as the indubitable property of had governed these realms—a period the crown.

He would detain the which had been emphatically describ. House no further than to refer short- ed as the reign of liberty—had been ly to what had fallen in the former passed under his Majesty's happy debate from an honourable and rule. For nearly thirty years it had learned gentleman (Mr Scarlett.) been passed amidst perils and storms He had been in faci astonished at which threatened the stability of his hearing it asserted that the language throne, and the independence of his of the preamble to the act of the Ist kingdom, without the reproach or of Geo. III., an act providing for the suspicion of a fault attaching to his surrender of the hereditary revenues character. In his present melancholy of the Crown, was verbatim the lan- condition, guage of the 1st Geo. I., and of the

" All nature left a blank, Ist of Geo. II. The honourable and

“ And knowledge at one entrance quite shut learned gentleman appeared, however, to speak from book, and he had a ruin, it was true, but a venerable therefore abstained from expressing ruin : his infirmities were any thing his surprise. He had since examin- but an argument against his rights. ed the latter acts, and could not find He had been “ scathed by Heaven's in either of them a single word of lightning;" but the blow which the language employed on the for: blasted had likewise consecrated him. mer, with reference to the civil list. He should conclude by repeating, The reason was obvious; neither that the only fund out of which those George the First nor George the Se. who resisted this proposition were cond had made any surrender of their willing that the money should be ta. hereditary revenues, but had receiv. ken, was a fund rendered sacred by ed a sum of L.120,000 a.year in ad- more than one express act of the dition to them. All that had been Legislature. granted to him arose out of an ex. After some further discussion a press bargain, and Parliament was division took place, when the origitherefore bound to respect the more nal resolution was carried by a masacredly whatever bore even the jority of 110; the number for it semblance of his private property, being 247, and against it 137. All, however, that was now asked On the 16th of March, Sir Alexfor was, that the same sanctity should ander Hope brought forward a mo. be observed respecting it, as would tion, of which he had given intimabe shown to the meanest subject, tion on the 23d ult., to continue the whose rights were secured by an act six equerries of the Windsor estaof Parliament. It was nothing to blishment, instead of reducing the him to be told that the King was in. number to four, as bad been recomfirm, and incapable of enjoyment; mended in the report of the Select that he was deaf and could not hear; Committee; but, on a division, or that he was blind, and could not motion was lost by a majority of one write. Such topics furnished to his hundred and ninety-three.


In the House of Lords the Earl ged on both sides, were in substance of Liverpool moved the second read- and character so similar to those exing of the bill for regulating the patiated upon in the lower House, Windsor establishment on the 26th, that we forbear from giving an anaand on the 30th the bill was commit. lysis of the debate.

On putting ted. At this stage of the business a the clause for allowing the Duke of long discussion took place, in which York L. 10,000 per annum, as custos the principal speakers were Earls persona, the non-contents were pretGrey, Liverpool, and Lauderdale, ty numerous, but the bill went the Marquis of Lansdown, and the through the Committee without a diLord Chancellor. The topics, ur- vision, and finally passed into a law.

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