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The Chancellor of the Exchequer more, and fill them with good said that that was not all, but it was preachers, who inculcated the all that had been yet received. soundestprinciples, the good which
Mr. Ellice said that his objec- they would be likely to produce tion to the system of the lottery would not counterbalance the evils as grossly immoral was so strong, arising from the continuance of that when the resolution for that lotteries. came to be proposed he would Mr. Cripps defended the lottery, take the sense of the house
it. as a less objectionable mode of The resolution was now put taxation than many taxes which and carried.
already existed, and he was satisThe next resolution was for fied that the abolition of any porraising the sum of 200,0001. by tion to the same amount of any the sale of 60,000 lottery tickets. Other tax would be more acceptable
Mr. Bernal said he could not to the public. If the lottery were consent to the raising of any sum withdrawn, there could be no by means which were so immoral doubt that the same or a greater in their tendency as the lottery; amount of money would be exand he was anxious that the pre- pended by the people in gambling sent time should be embraced for of another description. getting rid of that mode of taxa Mr. W. Smith said, that any tion, as, according to the admis- gentleman who had been at Paris sion of the chancellor of the ex. and passed through the Palais chequer, it had ceased to be so Royal, might have seen gaming, profitable as heretofore.
and other still more immoral pracMr. H. G. Bennet observed, tices carried on, from all of which that according to the statement of a revenue was derived to the gothe right honourable gentleman, vernment; and the same arguwe were to have so large a surplus ments for continuing the lottery next year, that there could be no would be equally applicable to necessity for the continuation of them. this odious and immoral tax. He Mr. Gipps also opposed the could suppose that if a paramount system of lotteries. If the pracnecessity existed, if there were no tice were once admitted to be other
way of getting money, this bad, he saw no reason why it would oņstitute sufficient should be continued; and he mainground with a chancellor of the tained that it was no argument in exchequer, whose great business support of them to say, that if the seemed to be to dip his hands into people did not gamble their money the pockets of the public. But he in that manner, they would expend considered that there was no ne it in some other equally objeccessity for still permitting what tionable. must be a violation of public The committee then divided morals. To the vote for building For the resolution
123 additional churches, he (Mr. H. Against it
65 G. Bennet) had given his assent, though he confessed he saw no ne. Majority
58 cessity for them ; but if the right Some other resolutions, were honourable gentleman were to pro- agreed to without any observation. pose the building of as many
Administration of Justice in Tobago-American Loyalists, Foreign
Trade-Provision for the Duke of Clarence-Agricultural Horse Tux
- Motion relative to Burning of Widows in India-Orange Lodges Affairs of Sicily-Slave Trade--Privy Council—Prorogation of
Parliament. HOUSE of Commons, June 6.- cated with the authorities of the
Lord Nugent rose, in pursu- island on the subject: he reance of notice, to move for a ceived
a report denying the committee to inquire into cer- charges, and imputing unworthy tain abuses in the administra- and discreditable motives to Mr. tion of justice in the island of Capper; and upon that report his Tobago. The noble lord ob- lordship had acted. He (lord served that the facts on which Nugeni) had received information he grounded his proposition were on many cases, but he should rely strongly vouched, and the charges principally upon two. His lordhe had to make would, he appre- ship then gave some instances of hended, apply more or less to mal-treatment at great length. A most of the smaller West India
the island was the islands. Towards the end of the rejection of a slave's testimony in Jast session, Mr. Capper, who had the case of a white freeman; the been attorney-general of Tobago, consequence of such a rejection had stated certain facts that ap was most unfavourable to the peared to his lordship to amount cause of justice, and to the moral to great abuses, to flagrant denials amelioration of the slave's condiof justice, and indeed to great per- tion. Would the house believe sonal cruelty. All offices of au- that, not only were the slaves thus thority were in the hands of a few treated, but that they were absoin that island, the society was lutely denied the opportunity of small, and consequently that great being present at any place of corrective of the human mind, Christian worship? for on the day public opinion, was wanting. Mr. and hour set apart for adoring the Capper having been appointed God of mercy and truth, the time early in 1819, he went out to was actually fixed, not only for Tobago, but soon found that he carrying on the slave market, but must either make himself a party for flogging these poor wretches ! to the illegal and unjust practices This was a dreadful example to prevailing, must subject himself set before the eyes of the unhappy to a life of disquiet and mortifica slaves on the Christian sabbath, tion, or must relinquish his ap- and well calculated to alienate pointment. He preferred the lat- them from all regard for those, ter, and returning at great personal who had to measure their destinies. inconvenience, he laid the whole The noble lord concluded by movcase before the colonial depart- ing for the appointment of a sement. Lord Bathurst communi- lect committee to inquire into 1821.
certain abuses in the island of To- testimony wholly opposed to the bago.
charge? With respect to the Mr. W. Smith seconded the question immediately before the motion.
house, whether a committee should Mr. Goulburn felt very great be appointed to inquire into the difficulty in addressing himself to facts stated by the noble lord, he questions of this sort-a difficulty could truly say, that it was with which originated in the peculiar si extreme regret he ever opposed a tuation in which the West India motion, the tendency of which was islands were placed The house to elicit information respecting the of assembly claimed the right of state of the different colonies. exercising all the privileges and Under all the circumstances, he powers which the legislature exer- hoped the noble lord would withcised in this country; but owing draw his motion. to the state of society, those Mr. Barham was always anxious, powers were necessarily wielded when any case relative to the West with diminished authority. In Indies, and which appeared proper nine out of ten cases which were for inquiry, was brought before brought before the house, they the house, to have it thoroughly must bear in mind that the present investigated. system had been established, and After a few observations by sir was raised to full vigour by the J. Macintosh and Mr. Marryatt, British legislature. Until the Mr. Wilberforce confessed that house, therefore, declared that it he thought it would be right to was not suited to the colonies, it make this matter a subject of inought to judge of the conduct of quiry. He was much surprised the parties residing there, by cer to hear honourable gentlemen detain circumstances growing out of fending some of the abuses which their situation, and not as if the notoriously existed in many of the particular events had taken place West India islands. Thus the here. It had been made a matter predilection of the negroes for of complaint, that the evidence of their Sunday market liad been asslaves was not received in the signed as the reason of its concourts. But if it were received, it tinuance. He would put it to would create two very serious the house, however, whether this difficulties. On the one hand, prepossession of the negroes of a the evidence of an initiated slave custom which had existed too might be most prejudicial to his long, was any ground for retainmaster; but on the other, suppose ing it. a master to be charged with some After a few words from other dreadful crime, suppose that crime honourable members, to be known to his slave, whose Lord Nugent said, that if the evidence might be of the most ma- house would allow him, he was terial nature, what was to prevent ready to withdraw his motion, and the person accused from using the to substitute in its place the folinfluence which he naturally pos- lowing resolution :sessed over his slave, for the
“ That early in the next session, pose of inciting him, not merely to this house will appoint a select soften his evidence, but to give committee, to inquire into the
administration of justice in the who had been land proprietors in island of Tobago."
America. The second class conOn the question being put from sisted of loyalists resident in Amethe chair,
rica, against whom the courts of Mr. Goulburn said, that he had justice in that country were shut. no objection to the sending out a The third class consisted of British commission to inquire into the cir- merchants, whose suits were likecumstances to which the noble wise excluded from American lord had alluded.
courts of justice. At the peace, The house divided
ample compensation had been For the resolution 66 made to the first class. For the Against it
other classes there had been pro
vided a sum of 600,0001. from the Majority
39 American government, in lieu of Mr. Courtenay, in pursuance of those claims, and a commission the notice he had given, rose to was now sitting in London for the, bring forward his motion respect- purpose of adjudging this sum to ing American loyalists. The ho- the legal claimants. nourable member entered at some sent claimants had laid their claim length into a variety of arguments, before them, and the commission to show that the loyalists, who had made an award upon it. The had been ruined in their property claimants having acquiesced in in consequence of adhering to the commission for distributing their allegiance to their sovereign, the sum obtained, and actually were entitled to particular consi- received a proportion of it, had no deration. The honourable mem claim now before that house. ber concluded by moving, that the Mr. Wilberforce said he had, house do resolve itself into a com- nearly forty years ago, supported mittee to consider the claims of the claim of these same persons. those American loyalists, who had Their claim could not consistently suffered in consequence of their with the known good faith of adherence to their allegiance, and parliament be rejected. who had not yet been remu Mr. Courtenay replied, and the nerated.
house divided Sir Scrope Morland seconded For the motion
77 the motion.
60 Mr. Baring said, that if the persons mentioned had a just Majority
17 claim, the magnitude of that claim House of Lords, June 8th. ought not to form any considera- The royal assent was given by tion on this question. The claim commissioners to the Seamen's was about 100,0001. But it was Wages Bill, the Grampound Disfair that the house should know franchisement Bill, the Sale of that if this claim were found good, Bread Bill, and several other pubanother claim of 100,0001. on the lic and private bills. The com-, part of merchant creditors would missioners were the lord Chancel-, be equally good. There were lor, the earl of Shaftesbury, and three classes of claimants. The lord Melville. first was the class of loyalists, Mr. Brogden and others brought
from the commons the South Sea into this country exceeded, by seveTrade Bill, and the Irish Insolventral 100,0001. that of the siłk conDebtor's Bill.
sumed in France. The silk grown The Marquis of Lansdown held in France and imported was esin his hand a report from the com timated at 2,000,0001. whereas mittee on foreign trade, in pre- the raw silk imported into Engsenting which, he wished to make land in 1820 amounted to a few observations. The princi- 2,500,0001. The value of this pal part of the report to which he material when manufacwas desirous of very briefly draw- tured was ten millions. From ing their lordship's attention, re- the moment that a free trade was lated to a very important manu- allowed to India, and private adfacture of this country, that of venturers were permitted to act on silk. It was with great satisfac- their own speculations, there had tion he stated that from the in- been a progressive improvement quiry which had been gone into, in the quality and the quantity of it appeared that the extent of the the raw material imported. One silk manufacture of this country of the embarrassments under which was such as to create a demand the silk trade laboured, was that for labour, and yield a profit of Spitalfields ; the place where far beyond any thing he could the manufacture was carried on have expected from a trade created was subject to a particular act of by favour and maintained by pro- parliament, deviating from the hibitions. It happened fortunate- true principles of political econoly that a part of the world which my, and rendering it impossible had been placed under the domi- for any manufacturer to introduce nion of this country was that any new machinery, however adwhich afforded the best raw ma- vantageous, into the trade. The terial, and from which it had ori- noble marquis concluded by ginally been derived by the south moving that the report be printed. of Europe. The improvement of House of Commons.The Marthe trade had been so great, that quis of Londonderry moved the or. supplies were now drawn two order of the day for the house rethree times a year from that coun- solving itself into a committee of try, instead of only once as for- the whole house, to take into merly. Much as this manufac- consideration the communication ture had been favoured in France, from his royal highness the duke it having always been the policy of Clarence. He proposed to of the French government to en- place his royal highness in the courage it, their lordships would same situation as if a bill had be surprised to hear that it had been brought in on the vote of been more successfully prosecuted 1818. That would be to allow in this country. It appeared that him the provision originally voted the quantity of the raw material from the period of his marriage, consumed in England was now just as if, at that time, a bill had considerably greater than that passed the legislature, granting used in the manufacture in France. him thế allowance which he had The value of the raw material been pleased to decline. If they imported from Italy and India were not justified in granting his