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His prefent Majefty publicly declared at his acceffion, that he would firengthen: the conftitution in church and state. If the prefent admini@ration properly attends to both thefe points, there is no doubt but his majesty's reign will be happy and profperous; and that it may be fo, is the fincere and hearty prayer of the March 8, 1766.

AUTHOR.

Debates in the Higher Council of the POLI-
TICAL CLUB, continued from Page.

214.

When Arcites was feated, there was for fome time a filence, the members continuing to fpeak to each other; but, after about five minutes interruption, Thermophilus arofe, and spoke to the following effect:

My LORD.

would have been fufficient, in the hands of minifterial power, to have fubverted the conftitution. Her friends, we find, could not reft, until this ber terror was brought to the bar of justice, from whence it was declared to be illegal, oppressive and unwarrantable*, and that too, by every degree of our judicial powert; and, while we are thus bleft and happy, let us extend the influence of this nurtured felicity to a nation who are united to us by every focial tie; and must have their fate with us, whether in adverfity or profperity: If we confider the original of many of its inhabitants, and the intercourfe we have with them, the connection is fo interesting as to with them every advan tage that felicitate mankind: Their notions of liberty they derive from us, are not lefs delicate in their conceptions, and, like us, have gradually advanced to be a flourishing people; and, in the days of trial, were called, by his late majesty, his good fubjects of Ireland. They at Would wish to fee every debate carthis time are foliciting a bill, which is ried on without perfonal reflections, confonant to antient ufage, and fo agree- as we are not now arguing on this occaable to the spirit of the conflitution, that fion against individuals, but for a nation; 'tis only a matter of furprize, how it came a nation, Sir, which has long by its wif to be deviated from. But, however this dom preferved its power even among her may be, let it be the glory of the prefent enemies, and which, I hope, it will never adminiftration to ftrengthen the conflitu- forfeit to her own fubjects. The story tion, and give the people of that kingdom of the monarch who conquered his ene an opportunity of rewarding and diftin- mies, only to fall by his pretended friends, guishing merit. This will keep clear the would in fuch a cafe be applicable to us, stream that flows from the fountain of fhould we by our folly give to the murliberty, and ftrengthen (what I must con- murs of a people, whom we fostered into tend for) the church. We know how power, that authority we acquired withlittle valuable is extent of fortune, with out their affittance; fhould we permit out its concomitants, influence and ref- the viper to deftroy us, when we oripect; this law will be productive of ginally cherish'd it into vigour. both, and effectually answer to preferve the bleffings of the revolution, and fecure to us the Hanover fucceffion, which can only be obstructed by (if I may use the expreffion) their pretended friends.

But thould this requelt, fo univerfally the defire of a refpectable kingdom, be denied them, I fhall prefume to give this advice to the grand inqueft there, and that too in words of great antiquity and import, viz. Good men and true, ftand toge. ther, bearken to the evidence that shall be given you, and true judgment make.

Lord Camden's opinion of General Warrants.

† Since cenfured by the Parliament.

I

"When I confider this fubject, the ingratitude of our colonies ainazes me! What armies have we not raised, what debts incurred, and what blood not spilt, to keep them in fecurity? Our last war was wholly begun on their account; though they were the aggreffors, our most powerful rival was attack'd, though in the beginning with inadequate forces on our fide, upon their account, by our generals; and with our treasures we gave them fecurity, and took off a power that feemed to check their ambition; and this our recompence! Their first exertion of power is against thofe who gave it, and their firft complaints against a law calculated for their own fecurity.

But

For my

ble person who spoke them.
part, I cannot fee how people are un-
grateful in refufing to give the money out
of their pockets, when they fuppofe they
have neither the ability nor a right so to
do. We lay a tax upon the colonies,
which, in their weak manner of reafo-
ning, they do not think themselves enti-
tled to pay. Now is this ingratitude, as
we commonly understand the expreflion ?
It may be infatuation, ignorance, wrong
reafoning, or what you will; but, surely,
it is not ingratitude. If a perfon, to
whom I am obliged for many favours,
comes to me, and defires my coat, not
as a favour, but as his due, am I un-
grateful if I refuse it? it might become
me indeed to give it to him, if he requef-
ted it, upon other terms; but the de-
manding it as a debt, in some measure,
cancels every other obligation. The poor
people in queftion are ready enough
to gratify our request, but not our com
mands; they will give whatever they can
afford; but then I should think it prudent
in us to let them have the pleasure of gi-
ving, and not to have their little taken
from them.

But I know, that talking against national ingratitude, is but beating the air; fince an accufation that falls upon no fingle perton, will be felt by no tingle perton. Yet if they are deftitute of virtue as a people, it is our duty not to refemble them in this refpect; if they be wanting to themfelves, it is our duty not to be fo too. Government must be obeyed; it is deferting our own honour; it is giving up what we owe to posterity, to give up the prefent queftion. There are very many reasons to induce us to be ftrictly tenacious of our honour and our rights, in the prefent inftance. And, firit, the people are very capable of paying the tax which they thus efufe to raile. It is a contradiction in itself to fay that they advantage us two millions a year by their trade with us, and yet are unable to pay a tax of not above an hundred thousand pounds. In all commerce there must be fome mutual advantages; and who can pretend to fay that the colonies, which trade for eight or ten millions annually, are not able to raife one hundred thousand pounds for their own support. No, they will answer, it is not for our support, but our oppression, that fuch a tax is to be levied; it is to pay an army, which, now freed from foreign fears, we do not want, and which, if it be used for any purposes, must be thofe of fill keeping us in fubjection. It is here, my Lord, that the thoe pinches. They cannot abide to be under any government now but their own; their own taxes, their own laws, and their own parliament; fo that we have only weakened ourselves, drained off our useful inhabitants, and fought the ftrongest power in Europe, only to gain the friendship of a fet of people, who will be contented to accept our favours as long as we are willing to grant them, but will immediately ceafe to refpect us, when we difcontinue to ferve them. "

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To this EUMOLPUS replied: "My LORD,

When I confider how fmall an object we are contending for, and what a trifle it will be if obtained; but, on the other hand, if deny'd (and deny'd it certainly will be) what terrible confequences will attend the forcing it; I am furprised any can helitate about the repeal. For God's fake, who are we now contending with? not a fingle province, but the whole body of the people, both at home and abroad; not with a mob undisciplined and uninftructed, but countries headed by men inured to fatigue, and killed in the experiences of action. It would be imprudence, it would be rashnefs itself, to oppose such a torrent thus dammed up, to refift the violence of our refolutions. At prefent the exigence of things requires that we should temporize, our own honour, that should be kept untarnih'd by being kept from rash meafures which it cannot fupport, the cries of the colonies abroad, our merchants

Nothing ferves fo manifa

tion for those who have a feeble caule. We are told of ingratitude and pofterity, and I don't know what; which I own to make no more impreffion on me, than I fincerely believe they did on the no

from almost every trading town in the kingdom, all confpire to bid us shorten the deliberation, and feem to fay, that when dangers are grown too violent for a flow remedy, precipitation itself is wifdom.

A Lift of the Minority in the House of Commons, who Voted against the Bill to repeal the American Stamp-A&t.

A Paris, Chez. J. W. Imprimeur, Rue du Colombier Fauxbourg St. Germain, à l'Hotel de Saxe. 1766.

Prix, douze Sous.

Avec Approbation, & Privilege. Veneris, 21o Die Februarii, 1766. Question,

THAT

HAT it is the opinion of this committee, that the house be moved, that leave be given to bring in a bill to repeal an act paffed in the laft feffion of parliament, entituled, An act for granting and applying certain flamp duties, and other duties in the British Colonies and Plantations in America, towards further defraying the expences of defending, protecting, and fecuring the fame, and for -amending fuch parts of the feveral acts of parliament relating to the trade and revenues of the faid Colonies and Plantations, as direct the manner of determining and recovering the penalties and forfeitures therein mentioned.

It was afterwards propofed, to leave out the word repeal, and infert explain and amend,

The question was put, Whether the word repeal fhould remain.

275

Ayes
Noes 167

Teller for the Ayes, Mr. Tho. Town

fbend, jun.

For the Noes, Mr. Rigby.

Peregrine Bertie, Efq;

William Blackttone, Efq; folicitor general to the Queen

Sir Walter Blackett, Bart.

Richard Wilbraham Bootle, Efq;
Thomas Brand, Efq;
William Bromley, Efq;

Hon. Robert Brudenel, Efq; a groom of
the bedchamber to the duke of York, and
colonel of the fourth regiment of foot,
and, lately made, vice chamberlain to
the Queen

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Sir Thomas Charles Bunbury, Bart.
Sir Robert Burdett, Bart.
Hon. John Burgoyne, Efq; colonel of the
16th regiment of dragoons
William Matt. Burt, Efq;
Hon. Charles Sloane Cadogan, Esq; fur-
veyor of his Majefty's waters, and
treasurer to the duke of York

Right Hon. Lord Frederick Campbell
James Campbell, Efq; governor of Stir-
ling eaple

Marquis of Carnarvon
Lord Carysfort

Timothy Cafwell, Efq;
Earl of Catherlough
Richard Clive, Efq;

James Edward Colleton, Efq;
Sir John Hynd Cotton
James Coutts, Efq;

Thomas Coventry, Efq; à director of the
South Sea Company
Patrick Crauford, Efq;
Afheton Curzon, Efq;
Sir Hugh Dalrympie, Bart.
Sir James Dashwood, Bart.
Sir John Huffey Delaval, Bart.
John Dickfon, Esq;

Then the main queftion was put, and Sir James Douglafs, admiral of the

agreed to.

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Simon Fanshawe, Efq; a
the board of green cloth
Sir Charles Farnaby, Bart.
Earl of Farnham
Thomas Foley, Efq;
Alexander Forrester, Efq;
Colonel Frafer

Lord Garlies

Bamber Gafcoigne, Efq;

comptroller of

Marquis of Lorne, a lieutenant general,

and colonel of the first regiment of foot Richard Lowndes, Elq;

Sir James Lowther, Bart.
Sir Herbert Lloyd, Bart.
Simon Luttrell, Efq;
William Lynch, Elq;

Jolin Rofs Mackye, Esq; paymafter of the ordnance

Thomas Gilbert, Elq; comptroller of the Alexander Mackay, Efq; colonel of the

King's Wardrobe

Si John Glynne, Bart.

Loid Adam Gordon, colonel of the 66th regiment of foot

The Marquis of Granby, mafler of the ordnance, and colonel of the royal regiment of borfe guards blue

Sir Alexander Grant, Bait.
Charles Gray, Eiq;

David Græme, Efq; fecretary to the
Queen, a major general, and colonel
of the 49th regiment of foot
Right Hon. George Grenville, Efq;
Thomas Grofveno, Efq;
Howell Gwynne, Efq;

John Hamilton, Efq; mafter of the King's works in Scotland

William Gerard Hamilton, Efq; Chancellor of the Ex bequer in Ireland Hon. Thomas Harley, Elq; member for

London

Sir Henry Harpur, Bart.
James Harris, Elq;

Eliab Harvey, Elq; King's counfel
Edward Harvey, Eiq; a major general,
colonel of the 3d regiment of light horse,
and adjutan general in North America
George Hay, L. L. D. dean of the arches
court, and judge of the prerogative
court of Canterbury
Edward Herbert, Eiq;
Lord Hinching brooke

Hon. George Hobart, Efq;

65th regiment of foot

Right Hon. James Stuart Mackenzie, Eiq; brother to the Earl of Bute Lord Robert Manners, colonel of the 3d regiment of dragoons, and lieutenant governor of Hull

John Manners, Efq; Houfe-keeper at
Whiteball

Samuel Martin, Efq; treasurer to the
Princess Dowager of Wales
Paul Methuen, Efq;

Right Hon. Thomas Millar, Esq; lord
Advocate for Scotland

Thomas Moore Molyneux, Efq; a cap

tain in the 3d regiment of foot guards Hon. Archibald Montgomery, Efq; equerry to the Queen, governor of Dunbarton caftle, and deputy ranger of St. James's and Hyde Parks

Sir John Mordaunt, a general of his
Majefy's forces, colonel of the 10th re-
giment of dragoons, and governor of
Sheerness

Sir Charles Mordaunt, Bart.
John Morton, Efq; chief juftice of Chef-

ter

John Moftyn, Efq; groom of the bedchamber to the King, colonel of the firft regiment of dragoon guards, and a lieutenant general

Lord Mount-tewart, fon to the Earl of Bute

Richard Neville Neville, Efq;

Francis Holbourne, Eiq; vice admiral of Sir Roger Newdigate, Bart.

the red

Rowland Holt, Efq;

Jacob Houblon, Efq;

Hon. Thomas Howard, Efq;
Thomas O by Hunter, Etq;

Charles Jenkinton, Efq; auditor of accampts to the Princefs Dowager of Wales

John Jolliffe, Efq;
Robert Jones, Elq
Anthony James Keck, Efq;
Edward Kynafton, Elq;
Peter Legh, Efq;

Lord North

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Thomas Pitt, Efq;

Si George Pococke, admiral of the Blue
George Prescott, Efq;

George Rice, Eíq; a lord of trade
John Robinson, Elq;

John Lockhart Rofs, a captain in the
royal navy

Lord George Sackville, joint vice treafurer of Ireland

Hon. Henry Saint John, groom of the bedchamber to the Duke of York, and a lieutenant colonel

Sir John Seabright, Bart. a major general, and colonel of the 18th regiment of foot

Henry Seymour, Efq; groom of the bed-
chamber to the King
Fane William Sharpe, Efq;
Jennifon Shaftoe, Efq;
Henry Shiffner, Efq;
James Shuttleworth, Efq;
Coningsby Sibthorpe, Efq;

Lord Charles Spencer, verdurer of Whichwood Foreft

Right Hon. Hans Stanley, Efq; gover-
nor of the Ile of Wight
Sir Thomas Stapleton, Bart.
John Stevenfon, Efq; a director of the
Eaft India Company

Sir Simeon Stuart, Bart. a chamberlain
of the Exchequer
Lord Strange, Chancellor of the duchy of
Lancafter
Lord George Sutton
Marquis of Tavistock

Earl of Thomond

Hon. Thomas Willoughby, Efq;
Sir Armine Wodehouse, Bart.
Robert Wood, Efq;

167 Thomas Wordley, Efq; furveyor of the board of works

168 Right Hon. Richard Rigby, Efq;

Teller

We shall make no other apology for introducing the following, than a Defire we have that Ireland should ftand as fair an Ornament in the imperial Diadem, as any other Kingdom, and to remove whatever might be conceived to her Difadvantage, in the Opinions of fome very refpectable Authors.

T

HE learned and ingenious Author of the Commentaries on the Laws of England, having afferted generally, and without any restriction, that Ireland is, and of right ought to be, bound by any laws which the Parliament of England fhall make concerning it; an affertion grounded on an opinion given by Sir Edward Coke exprefly on this fubject, and on fome general principles of Puffendorf; I beg leave, with all the deference due to a man of genius, and an inftructor, to fubmit to him, or whoever shall think the subject worth confidering, the following queries; not the refult of national prejudice or intemperate zeal, but the ge nuine dictates of a love of truth, and freedom of principles, which cannot be too early imbibed, or too long retained. If a highwayman robs a traveller of

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Thomas Thoroton, Esq; secretary to the his purfe, he may, without any great

mafter of the ordnance John Pugh Pryfe, Efq;

Edward Thurlowe, Elq; King's counsel
Hon Henry Frederick Thynne
Sir John Turner, Bart.
Sir Charles Kemys Tynte
Arthur Vanfittart, Efq;

Richard Vernon, Elq;

John Upton, Efq;
Charles Walcott, Efq;
Robert Waller, Efq;
John Rolle Walter, Efq;

Henry Wauchope, Elq; deputy privy
purfe to his Majefty, has a penfion in
Ireland

Hon John Ward, Efq;

fhare of philofophy, fubmit patiently to his lofs; but he would, with fome reafon, be provoked, and the injury be confiderably aggravated, fhould the needy collector infilt, that he had taken no more than what he had a perfect right to. To have loft their liberties has been the fate of many nations as well as Ireland; but to have those clear and demonftrable rights, which are independent of all external accident, and though not enjoyed by, do indubitably belong to, every nation upon earth, however fallen or depreffed; to have fuch rights explained away by the fubtleties of ingenious interpretation, is a hardship almoft peculiar to

Lord Warkworth, aid de camp to the Ireland, and of which the furely has fome

King

Philip Carteret Webb, Esq;

Alexander Wedderburn, King's counsel
Thomas Whately, Efq;

reafon to complain.

I am, Sir, your's, &c,

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