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perty to answer their immediate demands ? He opportunity he enjoyed that night, of exprelling, addressed himself to the feelings of the Houie, his determined opposition to it. It was one of lamented the distresses of the many millions the meatures that might be expected from : that were now fuffering under the tyranny of the coalition, who had entered into office by seizing coinpany's servants; and presled dispatch to free the reins of government by force, and who these unhappy people from the favery of an rneant to conclude their career by giving the abandoned set of men.
deach-stroke to their country, Gov. Orde opposed the bill, chiefly on ac- Mr. W. Pitt went over the whole ground of count of the vast accumulation of patronage the debate. He combated the necefüty on which it embraced. He faid it was fraught which the bill was founded; endeavoured to with ignominy and ruin, not only to the com- Thew, that the Company's wants were all of a pany, which was its more immediate victim; temporary Oature ; that a little present aid from but also, and certainly, however remotely, to parliament would enable them to recover their the liberties of the community at large.
affairs. The ftatement introduced by Mr. Fox, Mr. Gregory gave a very fuccinct narrative of he proved in several instances to be fallacious; the company's transactions, from the time he paid that gentleman many compliments; that entered into the direction, to the day that he he was the man of all others the most to be adleft it. He said he had long foreseen, and fore- mired, and the most to be dreaded ; that che told the present perplexed situation of their af measure he had now broughe forward was fo fairs, and that if Tome specific measure was not bold, fo violent, and so mischievous, that he speedily adopted, the ruin of the company must could consider it in no other light, than as the ensue. The measure that is now attempted ful- last stake of a desperate adventurer; who, to ly met his idea, because it seemed to posless all save himself had risked the whole portefGons of thofe requifites which were calculated to render India. He exhorted the House to throw out the it effectual and compleat.
bill, as tending, in its principle, not only to diMr. Beaufoy did not like the whole bill, but minish, but to increase the influence of the approved of several parts. He stated the parts crown. It at prefent served only to eftablish the he approved, and proposed a scheme for jet- power of minilters; but in the end, might carry ting ibe company's affairs, without infringing despotisin to the throne. its chartered rights.
Mr. Fox, endeavoured to defend his bill Mr. S. Sinith rose to defend the Court of Di- against the several objections that had been rectors, from the charge' brought by Mr. Fox, made to it in the course of a long and spirited of endeavouring to impose upon the House, by debate. To the charge of its being a violation a falle fatement of their affairs. He infilted of chartered rights, and chartered property, he upon it, that the estimate they had delivered said, he could eafily comprehend the right of was sufficiently correct.
property in an estate, the rents, the profits, and Mr. Dunda; (late Lord Advocate) in a speech the produce ensuing from it ; but he linew of of more than two hours, took infinite pains to no tuch thing as property in dominion. Such expule the bad eifcets that would follow from was the present cale; the bill was not to viothe principles of the bill, which, in every light late, but to secure, chartered property, and tə in which it čuld be viewed, was inimical to rescue, thereby, millions of innocent people the conititution. He denied the existence of
from tyranny and oppreflion. To the acceflion that neceflily, on which the bill was founded. of influence, which gentlemen seemed so appre. Said the abuses were not less flagrant when hensive of, he opposed the inconfiftencies of the the charter were granted than now; and, that different speakers ; one dreaded the increase of by the present meature, the right hon. Secreta- influence that the bill, should it pass into a law, ry out-Heroded Herod. He objected to the bill, would throw into ihe scale of the Crown; on the ground of setting up one empire within while others expressed their
left another empire ; a ministerial within a roy- that influence mould be made to operate al empiie. An influence independent of the against its just prerogatives. These different Crown, and which would in the end even follow sentiments,' he contended, flowed from the the present minister into private life. He ex- fame principle, a fruitiers endeavour to raise plained the bill which he intended to have jealousies where confidence was most to be debrought in, ang defended it.
fired. He adverted to the personalities which Solicitor General (Mansfield) supported the bad been levelled against him. He gloried, he principle of the bill, against the arguments of faid, in his present connections. The great and ine learned gentleman who had jult spoke be- honourable families whole confidence he pole foore him. He ridiculed the notion of an im fefled bore honourable testimony to the upperium in imperio. And asked if the corpora- rightne!s of his measures, and no temptation tion of London was an imperium in imperio ? should ever prevail upon him to relinquish their he defended the change of lystem in the Eaft caufe. He treated with contempt the feeble India Company, as strictly constitutional; and attempts that were made to awaken enmiucs contended, that go invalion of property was in botoms that were reconciled; and was happy, either made, or intended to be made, by the that in one thing he differed from his opponents, provision in the bill; on the contrasy, property if, unlike them, he had forgotten his enmities, was made more secure, and the businets of the he had not, like thein, abandoned his friendthips. directors better regulated.
To the charge of Mr. T. Pitt, that they bad Mr. T. Pitt declared the bill to be so big feized on the reins of government by force, he with alarm), that if lo morrow were to be his faid, they attained the places they held by : latt day, he should die in more peace for the vote of that huvic. They had doaethe same
in 1982, and then the hon. gentleman and his which was ultimately agreed to be four years. friends afifted him. He withed the hoo. gent. The Committee having gone through the bill, ig tell him, how that came to be assault and the chairman left the chair; and force in 1783, that was fair dealing in 1982 ? Mr. Fox moved, That the report be then re
The question being put the House divided; ceived, which was agreed to, and the House for the bill 217, against 'it 103 ; majority adjourned. 114
4.) Mr. Attorney General rose, he said, of3.1 Mr. Dondas moved, That a committee facially, to make a motion of a disagreeable of the whole house do proceed, on Tuesday nature in its contequences to a member of that next, to hear counsel, on the bill of pains and House, and painful to himself. He then movedl, penalties against Sir Thomas Rumbold. Agreed That the record of Mr. Atkinson's conviction
might be read, and observed, that the House, Ld Dancsnnon moved for the arrival of the having before them the record of conviction of Committee to whom the complaints of the em- one of its members for the commiflion of a bezzlements of fores in his Majesty's yard crime lo scandalous and infamou as perjury, he at Port Imouth had been referred during the latt prelumed they would hiold it a dishonour to fute fellion of parliament. Agreed to.
fer him to fit any longer among them. He Mr. Posney observed, that the state of the moved, therefore, " That Christopher Atkinson, gaols throughout the kingdom required the serie Esq. be expelled the House.' ous confideration of the House. He moved Sir Tho. Davenport (Solicitor General) leo for an account of all the convicts in the several conded the motion. He said, that if he could gaols, their crimes and sentences, to be laid be- formerly have entertained any doubts of the fore the house. Agreed to.
propriety of coming to a vote of expulfion with The order of the day, was then called for, respect to Mr. Atkinson, a late circumstance and the committee went into the further condi- had occurred, which would completely have rederation of Mr. Fox's Eait India Bill, when moved them. He had understood that Mr. At. that geatleman proceeded to name the Commil- kinson's friends had preferred a bill of indialment fioness and Directors who were to be entrusted againit Mr. Bennet for perjury, whole eviwith the several powers and clauses of the bill, dence had been the principal ground of the verto carry the same into execution. There he dict, and who was a gentleman of fuch known introduced with encomiums fuited to the res integrity, that, the moment the bill came bepative merits of each nominee, all whole fore a jury, it was instantly thrown out, with characters were allowed to be unexceptionable. the most unequivocal marks of deteftation, The Right Hon. Earl Fitzwilliam was the first Another Oriking mark of guilt was, that while named; the red in the order as tollows; the terror of the protecution was hanging over Right Hon. Frederick Montagu.
his head, he had caused all his papers, relative Rigiit Hon. Viscount Lewisham,
to the matter of the prosecution, to be burnt. Hon. Col. Noi th.
He therefore contended, that nothing could be Sir Gilbert Elliot, Bart.
urged in extenuation of the crime ; and he left Sir Henry Fletcher, Bart. And
it to the house to determine on the roolion. Robert Gregory, Elz.
Mr. Gascoyne, len, did not rite, he said, as Thele, the Committee agreed, Mould be in the friend of Mr. Atkinson, to oppose the moa serted in the bill, to constitute the board of tion, but merely as a member of parliament, Ergen Commiflisner's, which teim, however, Mr. who wished only not to precipitate a measure Fox maved to bave changed, throughout the which the House might, in time, have reason bill, into that of Director's, as better accom. to disclaim. It were a degree of unjustiGable dated to the usual form of correspondence with severity haftily to proceed to record upon the the Company's servants abroad.
Journals of the House a sentence of expulsion, Something was said about the salaries to be to be read hereafier by the children, when the allowed the Commissioners; but Mr. Fox faid, innocence of the father may be found acknowEe had authority from every gentleman he had ledged and recorded in the Court of Law. At named, to declare they would accept of none. this moment, he understood that Mr. Atkinson He thea proceeded to name the following gen. was at liberty to lue out a writ of error, by tiemen, to be inserted in the bill as Aliant which he might be able to set aside the verdic, Diriders who were to have a falary of 500l. a or arrest the judgement. He would say 10Year each, viz.
thing against the reputation of Mr. Bennet ; John Harrison, Eq. Geo. Comyns, E.q. bui, in a transaction where Mr. Alkinson apRichard Hall, E... John Mihie, Elq. peared to have feived the government in two S. Luthington, Ely. Geo. Kcating, Eią. different capacities, one as merchant, the other John Smith, Eq. Tho. Cheap, Esq. as factor, it was not impoffible that Mr. Bennet And Jacob Wilkinlon, Elq.
might mistake a particular circumstance wbich Bat, as a disqualifying claufe was afterwards in- might be perfectly justifiable in one capacity as serted in the bill, to exclude the Asistant Dio merchant, and which would be criminal in the rectors from sitting in parliament, this lalt gen- other as actor; he though every humide mar tleman declined the office, declaring, at the would feel for the sufferings of a diftrested fafame time, that no pecuniary emolument should mily, and the delay of only a fingle month, ever tempt bim to part with that franchise. A could not well be refuled, especiallly a: fort conversacion then took place, relative to he bad authority, from two bankers of de the time the Direiwo showiu hold their places, greatest eminence in London, to enter into
curitles for his appearance, to the amount of out in his calculation. The tax of a guinea 2 20,000l.
head on men servants produced no more than Sir Robert Herries said, that he, for one, was 47,000l. and if half that tax on maid servante ready to be bonnd ir: any sumn, if the learned would produce 400,000l. a year, of course gentle:nan would withdraw his motion.
there must be near ten maids to one man ferSir P. J. Clerke declared, that, being one of vant. the Committee appointed to enquire into the Mr. Coke, in support of a former opioion, contract with the Victualling Office, he would " that no person ought to move for the repeal of in delicacy, with to ule as little rigour as pos- 2 tax without having another to propose," said, fible, and therefore, if it should be moved to there was a species of property which had nefuipend the resolution of expulsion for a short ver yet been taxed, and that was, pews
in cime, he would vore for such mocion; but if the churches ;” upon every one of which, if priqueltion should be put, fimply, as now stated by vate property, he would propose a tax of 228.3 the learned gentlemen, he confelled, that with and upon large pews for corporate bodies, zol. the record that was then on the table before on every prebendary's stall 40s. ; on every him, and which stood uncontradicted, he should dean's sl. ; and on every bishop's' 201.
For vote for the expulsion.
leave to erect tomb-stones he would propose a Mr. Gascoyne moved, that the debate on this license of 205. each; and for burying in churches, question be adjourned to the 24th day of Janua- !ol. ; which last he was far from wishing to see Tynext.
a productive tax. He had known a whole pa. Sir P. J. Clerke seconded the motion. rith, he said, kept from church a month og 2
The House divided on the motion. For it person's being buried in it who had died of the 62. Against it 131. Majority 69. The quel Imall pox.
To there he added a tax upon tion was then put for expullion, which was dogs, which all together he rated at 530,000l. carried without a division.
2 year. 4.) Mr. Alderman Newnham rose, as' hệ
Mr. Sheridan supported the receipt tax, on had given notice, to move for the repeal of the the ground of its being aiready mortgaged for receipt tax. That tax, he said, had not been money advanced to the State. The receipt tax at tirit much opposed, because its effeals, were he allowed, had been objected to as troublenot felt or foreleen; but now it had been fome and 'vexatious ; that on tomboftones was tried, complaints' against it came from every certainly not liable to the fame objection, as quarter, and he was persuaded, that, as it was the people, out of whole fortune it was to be unpopular, it would be unproductive. His paid, would know nothing of the matter, as constituents had inftruc?ed him to move for its they must be dead before there could be any call repeal, and he knew it to be his duty to ex
for the tax. But who knows, added he, that it prets their fenfe.-The constituents of the no- might not be rendered unpopular by being re. ble Lord [Jn. Cavendish] had also instructed his prelented a receipt tax upon persons who, have Lordship to vote against the tax; but as poslibly ing paid the debt of Nature, had the receipt his Lordlhip might pot have had time to read engraved upon their tombs? his inftructions, he would read them for him The House divided : for Mr. Newnham's (a loud laugh.) 'He desired the title of the act motion 47; against it 149. inight be read, and then moved, That leave be
(To be continued.) given to bring in a bill, to repeal so much of Hifery of the Proceedings and Debates of the the said act as impoled a tax upon receipts. He House of. Comnions of Ireland, the forft Seffion of was seconded by
obe Fürth Parliament in the Reign of his preSir Cecil Wiay, who had likewise been in. structed by his constituents to oppose the tax.
feat Mojefly, Tuesday, Oct. 14, 1783He propoled, in the room of it, a tax of 10%.
(Continued from p. 159.) a year on maid servants for domestic purposes [a loud laugh ] This tax would produce, he said,
Monday, November 24, 1783.
TR. of franking to be abolished.
leni the utmost consequence this Mr. Powys could never admit the doctrine kingitom, which he would preface by observing, that had been advanced, inat members were to that during the late war an act had passed in facrifice their own opinions to those of their England, lufpending a part of the act of naviconstituents. He owned he had received in- gation, by admiteing the entry of tobacco structions from two very respe&table trading from neutral places, but as Ireland was not contowns in the county he had the honour to red sidered in that light, the importation of tobacprelent; but he could not be persuaded to give cos froin this country to Great Britain, was up a tax which, he was convinced, was an easy, consequently prohibited; so that our merchants and would be an eficient one. He delired mic are precluded from sending a single hogshead to nilters to ftaad by their tax.
England, while the merchants of that kingdom, Lord Surry greatly respected the instru&ions when they have more tobacco than they can of conftituents, when he was assured the ma- readily rell, may pour in as much as ibey jority were of one opinion. He instanced a ci- please into Ireland, to the ruin and destructioa ey (Cloucester) frora whence instructions had of the American and West India trade, we have been feat to oppose the tax, though he had reason so dearly purchased: He therefore offered a peto believe the majority of the citizens approved tition from the merchants confticuting the counof it. He believed the hon. Barones who pro- cil of the chamber of coinmerce. poled the tax on maid Servants had been a little Mr. Pelham iaid, that a petition from the mere
chants of Dublin ought to meet with every ref- fupported by a great number of the treasury peet; but the navigation act was a very old law, fide, and opposed by the other part of the House and had been adopted by Ireland.
as ftrenuouily.) Mr. Foster Whenever this question comes to Mr. Flood, who came in late was an able ade be debated, I will shew that it is one of the most vocate for the admiffion of constituents to hear important that can come before the house; it is their debates, and declared that if gentlemen no less than " whether we shall take advan- were not alhained of their conduct, they had tage of our national situation or not?" It is a nothing to fear from its being known, and that it question that deserves our utmost attention, and was unreasonable and unjust to preclude all i am happy to see it so respe&tfully brought from the galleries for the intemperate conduct forward as by the hon. gentleman who repre- of a few. sents the city of Dublup. The navigation act Ayes
157 prohibits the importation of goods into Creat Noes Britain or Ireland from any place but the Mr. Hartley's petition was then precluded by place of their growth; and by the late the queltion on the order of the day, which qualification of that act, they were allowed to was carried without a division. be imported from neutral place. Ireland is not 25.] The committee to inquire into the Nate a neutral place, but a nation in strict amity, and of the trade between this kingdom and Portugal, is therefore excluded from the benefit of this fat for some time, after which the houle reluina trade, at the same time England may send these ed. goods hicher : now, in my opinion the two Ordered, the bill of supply to be engrosied countries should stand on the same footing, and and read this day. it requires no new law to regulate this business, 26.] The petition of certain merchants, it only requires that the old law should be con- ftiling themselves the Council of the Chatóber ftrued in the fame manner in both nations; for of Commerce, praying to be put on the fame if Britain will not receive these goods from footing with Great Britain, relative to the cooIreland, neither should Ireland receive them (truction of the navigation acts, was this day from Britain.
presented by Mr. Hartley, and ordered to lie on Ms. Fitzgibbon, Mr. Attorney General, Mr. the table. Beresford, Mr. Malon, Mr. Daly, Mr. Scott, Right Hon. John Porter-As I think the ex. Mr. Wm. Ponsonby, Mr. Lodge Morres and Mr. istence of Ireland, as a commercial country, des Jones, opposed receiving the petition, as the pends upon the proper conttruction of the act of ticle of a Council of the Chamber of Commerce navigation, and the other acts made explanatowas an unknown cicle.
ry thereof, and for giving it force in Ireland. Mr. Hussey, J. H. Cavendish, Mr. Molyneux, this petition merits our utmost regards; and as Sir Edward Newenham, Mr. Corry and Mr. the hon. gentleman who prelented it, seemed Griffith, spoke to receive the petition.
to have fome doubt that the bill now before the Prime Serjeant Kelly. For my part, though committee of ways and means, might in fome I hold an office under goveroment, I never will degree cend to exclude Ireland from the benefit object to this petition for the stile ; there is no of those acts, though I am not of the lame fault in the file : here is a select body of men opinion mytelf, yet I am ready to add to that called the chamber of commerce ; the use of bili a provilo [which he read] declaring that names is to know who the persons petitioniag nothing therein contained shall be construed 10 are, in case of any impropriety we may call deprive this country of the benefit of the act of them before us. To this petition we have the navigation, or the acts made explanatory cherename of an honourable member of this House, of. he is answerable for it ; it is acknowledged to An engrossed money-bill was presented to the be a matter of importance, and thail we for House. mere matter of form, reject an important mat- Ordered, shat the same be presented to the ter fo well authenticated ? No, though I am House of Lords by two of the members of this on this fide of the Houte, and will support go House, for their Lordships concurrence. verament in every honourable measure, and in Mr. Graitance I move to take into consideratiDone but honourable mealures, I will receive on, on Friday next, all practical retrenchments this peritioa ; no power on earth shall prevent in the collecting of the revenue. From what me. (Here a loud clapping taking place, the happened in this Houle on Saturday latt, partigallery was ordered to be cleared.
As bon as cularly respecting the addition of 4000l. per That order was complied with, and the House annum, to the salary of the Chief Governor (e was cleared.)
measure which, had I been present, I would Mr. Fitzgibbon warmly censured the indes have most strenuously opposed) I am induced to cent conduct of the gallery, and moved that the move for an immediate enquiry into practical House bould enter into a resolution, “ That, a retrenchments.Ordered. gross and indecent outrage, by clapping of hands, Report was made by the right hon. John having been committed this night by the strange Foster, that the committee had gone through ers adiniued to the gallery, resolved that the the bill for granting to his Majesty several du. ferjeant at arms do from time to time take into ties therein mentioned, without any amende his cuttody any stranger or strangers that he shall ke or be informed of to be in the House, while Mr. Foster-I move that a clause be annexed any committee of the whole House, or the to the said bill. “ Provided always, and be is committee of privileges is fitting ; and that thi enacted by the authority aforesaid, that this ac widerbe Itrialy enforced.” [The mosion was shall got extead to allow the import of tile
wares and merchandizes from any place contra- house 300 feet in length, and 3 stories high, Ev to the true intent and meaning of the act, capable of containing 300 looms, for the pura called the A&t of Navigation passed in the reign pose of giving employment to weavers of Dube of Charles the II. and by an act passed in the four- lin out of work ;-that a great number of that teenth and bitecenth of George II. and by an defcription were there employed and subifted ac pallied in the seventeenth and eighteenth of until they should get employment, at the rate his puelent Majelty for the extending of certain of 9d. for the men, 6d. for the women, and provifions."
4d. for the boys and girls per day.-That at laid Mr. Hartley-The intention of this petition manufactory of Prosperous there were actually is to examine into the construction of the act 300 looms at work, &c. el navigation.
Mr. Foker faid - The witness is employed by Mi. Foster-I wish to introduce a clause to the linen-board to go round the kingdom, and olvviate all doubts, relative to this country, as a
make his return on oath. After expatiating on commercial country; if any doubts remain, I the great merit of Captain Brooke, Mr. Foster do not wish to have it introduced at all.
mentioned that he had a resolution to propose Mr. Hartley-I know that the petition is pres, with their approbation : He must observe to lenied with the best intentions.
gentlemen, that this could not be called a grant Mr. Foster said, that the act of navigation of public money, it was only a loan; there was was an Irish law. If geatlemen wished for a no tax to be laid on for it. He then moved, feparate act (though in his opinion, not necel. “ That the sum of 25,000l. be advanced to Rofziy) he foulu withdraw the proposed clause, bert Brooke, Esq. in Exchequer bills, payable and more that the bill should be engrossed. the 25th of March, 1984, he paying interest
The House in a committee of ways and for the same, and giving proper security for said mcans, Right Honourable John Foster in the Sum of 25,000l. and for employing 2000 perluns Chair.
in the manufactory at Prosperous, from the 25th Sir Henry Harstonge said, his letters received of March, 1784, to the 25th of March, 1794.' this day from Limerick acquainted him, that Mr. Peliam declared, that captain Brooke the city and its custom-houle nill remained in was called upon by government when various the fame defenceless ftate ie had been in for petitions were presented at the cakle, ftating ihe fome cime part, for want of a garrison, there wretched situation of the weavers : Captain not being a lingle foldier there : and called up. Brooke informed government, that, with their on the right hon. gentleman in the confidence afliltance, he would give employment in seveof Government, to declare why a military ral of them; and on consulting with Pune of force had not been quartered there for some the magistrates, it was agreed to lend down to time patt.
Prolperous fuch unemployed weavers, properly Mr. Pelham, in answer, faid, that in pursu- certified, as were unable to get employment. ance to an application from the hon. baronet, Mr. Pelham spoke much of the utility of the orders had been tent for the march of the troops measure, and laid he would give his hearty coneo do garriton duty in Limerick.
cuirence to the resolution. Sir Henry Haritonge rejvinci by an observa- Mr. Griffith said, that from his local knot. tion on the flow pets of their march, it being ledge of the town of Prosperous, and reading we z zu of October he made an application to the allegations of Captain Brooke's petition, he the right hon, gentleman.
was competent to declare, that they were not Mr. Chaiterion moved, that a bill to prevent only true, but rather moderate; he laid, about frivoluus and vexatious arrelts should be prints Ax or seven days ago, , he went to Profperous, co. He obierved, that the leflion before last examined the houses, looms, &c. and saw com. an a&t under a limilar litle had paired; that it petence and industry in the countenaace of the bad injured all credit ainong the lower clats of people; he particularly examined how those the people, particularly at Cork, the inhabi- people, fent lately from Dublin, for want of emEanes of which had petitioned against it, and ploy, were difpoled of; He saw some at work, iz tad teen fince repeated. - Ordered accordingly. Others preparing wok for the loom; an univer:
27) Mr. Folter preteored an engrofied bill fal satisfaction, prevailed with those, who, a for regulating the lugar trade, and granting seves few days before, were configned to dejection ral duties therein mentioned. - Ordered io the and misery: he hoped that though he gave this sirds.
relolution his warm support, he would not be Report from the committee to enquire into charged with inconsistency, as no man had a che pelicion respecting the inland navigation, greater regard for public economy than what he Received and ondered io lie on the cable. had; but encouragement to your manufactures
The Houic relolved it feit into a committee will be a great means of equalizing your reve. go the peritinn of Robert Brooke, Eig; of He said, he knew the petitioner himself; I'rniperous, Thornas Burgh, Elq. (of Oldtown) he knew him in Asia and in Europe ; and a man in the chuir.
of greater worth did not exist : he hoped the Mr. Arbuthnot, fupervisor of the linen-board, committee would not think that his private prewas examined, who, among other particulars, dilection should influence his voting on this ocdeposed, chat he had been sent by the linen. casion, board en Prosperou , in the county of Kildare, Sir Henry Cavendish observed, that the witMi: Biowke's mapulactory, where he found nels had said that Caplain Brooke had got 3000l. buildings bad been érected, since the rith of from the viceroy; it was not right that goreraOtimber last, which had coll, by the builder's ment should give money without consent of parAmule, 2,8337. the priocipal of which was a