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ling to decide. On this point, sen, live, could co psunie the hours of the tence has been pronounced by the nati. nal council with a proposition proper and natural tribunal, and the like this, and gravely call it, a country has refounded with acclama. great induceinent to the emancipation tion ; but that this proposal of politi of Ireland! You would have repelled cal controul is degrading to Ireland the unworthy (uspicion againft the and to the King, that such a propo. Roman Catholik bishops of Ireland, fal is calculated, to render us con- and you would have told your king" tempubie in the eyes of Europe and of that you wanted no security fo the logo our enemies ; chat such a proposal is ally of men, every page of whole bil. insulting to the men who are fworn tory is one continued evidence of the to be loyal--who are suffering in molt ze.lous attachment to their fore. the cause of that very King who (we reign and constitution" - You would are to d) till 'doubig-till suspels have told ministers of hypocrisy and their fidelity and allegiance-l am fanaticism, that ” emancipation is as persuaded as I am convinced that. , the king's best security, and the im. were the disgusting proposal acccded penetrable Thield of the empre Give to by our clergy, the va uable the Roinan Catholic people of Ireland consideration would be withheld, and the privileges of the conftitution, and that a peope who facrificed their they will be faithful to you and to honour would cteroaliy be trodden' them ---they will neither suffer do. apon.

mestic nor foreign tyranny to lovade Had the proposal come in any them-you will hold Ireland by the other Thape - had it been the volun- indissoluble links of interest, of aff:co tary offering of the united mind of lion and of patriotism. Until this ou bishops, it might have had a Thall be done, your political code feblance of integrity--the honour troul over the nominacio'i of the cao of our country would be saved. Buttholic buhops is as idle as it is degra. to be told that this conceffion of a ding" -Thus would For speak 10 polical controu! or veto is to be the p'oposers of the veto ; shall I be the price the fine qua non, with told, my Lord, that the determina. out wnich the pocr pcopie of Ireland cion of the bithops will throw back Shall not be relieved, is as unwise and the cause of the catholic body ; Will impolitic, at the present awsui no a wise or an honeit minister say so, ment, as is is paintulaiid duirassing Will men who mean to preserve their to national feeling. '

faith with Ireland, fay fo Will Those ministers who are infenfible men who read and see the events of to the strong and powerful canse the palling hour be bold enough to. which now Surround then--who affere, that it would be wise to with. wil oot hear the bellowings of the hold emancipation because theCathotyger on the opposite thores-wlio lic bithops have refused his Majelly : tremble at the power of a Pope, political coolroul over their nomina. and are deaf tothe threats of Buona. tion : Will the country' who can fee parte — who would concede to dis. and read, as well as ministers, believe honour, what they would not granç such nonience ? Before you calkd of to services and loyalty, are not to be your political controul, the cry for depended on--peither their wisdom emancipation was universal, and now nor integrity are to be truried. (h, the necessities of the empire re-echo venerated spirit of Fox ! how wouldlt 'it. I have heard of a requisition to call chou have rebuked the statemen, a meeting of the Catholics, tore who, in times like these in which we quelt that the bilhops may recoas

der their decilor, solemnly and de, should not be questioned. Let Mr: liberately made, and your Lord ship's Gractan go back to the inperial para Dame is made use of to cover the at. liamento Europe wil} afford him fome tempt. What does such a requiGtion good reasons why Ireland should be go !o ? It requires no great acuteness emancipated—and let us hear of no to discoverit leads to the division' more conventions, either with Castle. of our countrymen, a miserable ex- raigh or Welleley- let the cause of hibition of public folly, and of natio the Catholic be pleaded in the fpirit sal weakness. Give not your coun. ofou la mented Fox, on the broad tegance, my Lord,, to such an at- and universal principal of liberty, and tempt -toop not froin that proud we shall have no more huxtering and elevation on whicb our country men trafficking-ibe who e piclure will . placed you in 18 5, and which as be laid before the epire, and not one yet you have preserved with honour- or two little lhuffing and quibbling do not act over again those difyu ting politicians, who have they tell us Scenes which blot, our history from with good intention) brought forward 1793 10 1805. I would not atte apt a tuject only calculated to rem sve to uzietele the folema, and, I dare from the observation of mipilters the fay, the well considered determina- , tremendous caules which now loudly tion of the Catholic 'bishopsfirst call for an immediate emancipation, because, I would got weaken my coug of the Catholics of Ireland. These, try by insuting them-secondly, be my Lord, are my sentiments, and I cause I think t e proposition a spe, believe,the sentiments of every thinks cies of joke put upon our worthy ing and honett Irishman. I give countryman by an artful courtier- them with freedom and with fincerity thirdly, because i feel that such a go among your countrymen, and proposition implies a doubt of that in- ask them do chey feel like the author tegrity which has been proved,and of this letter. a suspicion of that loyalty which : 'A CATHOLIC CITIZEN.

TO THE RIGHT REV. DR. MILNER.

MY LORD,

tive to the so much talked of propo.

fal of subjecting the nomination of As you have condescended to ho our ishops to the controul of the Dour my publications in the Herald Crowa, on condition of our receiving with some attention, I shall avail emancipation in return) you are pleased mylelf of the right of observing upon to say that “ perhaps the fatemen:s yours with the greatest deference, but of Messrs. Grattao and Ponsonby at the same time, with the most un on that subject, as affecting your cona reserved frankoess.

duct on the occasion, have been conI have now before me two letters tradicted, and that in Print ;” referbearing your signature, one of which ring at the same time to your many is addressed to the Editor, of the works in proof of your orthodoxy ; Herald, and the other to a Mr. and you conclude by expresfing a Coyne, of Capel-ftreet, who has at with, that I could be induced to think your Lord'hip's request, caused it to with you, that the best way in this be inlerted ia the same independent case, is to rely on the piety, zeal Print. In the former (remarking on and abilities of the Bishops, whose my letters to Doctor O'Reilly, rela,

peculiar province it is to decide on Lord, before I press this subje& fure this queltion.

ther to assure you, and that most unIn the latter, however, you are feignedly, that few entertain a higher pore explicit, and indeed you write opinion than I do of your zeal, your evidently under the influence of irri- virtues and your extraordinary abili. sated feelings arising, I should hope, ties, which you have so long and lo from a conscious innocence of the usefully employed to the edification charge. Your words to Mr. Coyne, of the faithful, and which bid defiare as follows:-"You will have seen ance even to “ the foul tongue of foine cruel attacks on me in the nander.” Your invaluable productiNewspapers, and by gentlemen from ons, not inferior to and of the age, whom I expected the greatest sup. I have often fought after with avidity. port. I wish you, on every occasion, and feafted on with rapturous delight, and in the most public manner you las on the manna of Heaven where: can, to affare Catholics of every de. with to refresh me in this wildernes: Scriprion, that I would sooner lose and as far as my humble voice could the last drop of my blood, than be serve, never has it been wanting, in instrumental to an Acatholic King's the circle of my acquaintance to obtaining any power or in Auence over blow the trumpet of your fair fame any part of the Catholic church, and l-impelled thereto by a principle of much, more to obtain supremacy pure gratitude to the man, who, a• in it.” “nd after coumerating your mongst all the clergynen of his owa various and truly learned works, country, stood alone, the gratuitous which I have often read with reve- champion of calumniated Ireland. rential respech, you thus proceed - Yes, my Lord, previous to Mr. « l'hele works ought to convince Popsopby's reported assertions, you cvery man of common sense and had with you the grateful admiration common candour, that I cannot be of every Irish Catholic, and it was an abettor of the system which is im- for that very reason, he felt the un. pireed to me. But I find the cry of expected rock so severely. For, church in danger is capable of extin said he, with the Pfalmilt, " it was quishing both sense and candour a not an enemy that reproached me, mongst Catholics as well as Protel. then I could have borne it; neither

was it he that hated me, that did Vielding to no mio living in the magoify himself against me, then I mail profound respect for every indi. would have hid myself from him. dual of those exalted characters, who But it was thou a man, mine equal." grace the Episcopal Bench, so long my guide, and my acquaintance." as they confine themselves to matters You will, my Lord, I am canginced, purely spiritual, and do not, (as easily pardon the warmth of my forivould be the case in the present in- mer expressions, when you recollca Stance, Mould they give their supe your own affecting and beautifulll por: to thig odious meafure-o cir- drawn picture of Iriíh feelings, in cumftance not at all to be appre. defcribing the ever to be lamented headed with the ducies of their fa- fate of our Irish Demollhencs. Alas! cred office blend Politics, in the dis. that once great man-nature's most cuilion of which, all men, whether favoured fon --- unhappy pilot ! who, Layar Clergy, are on the most after havine steered through the bois. veiled footing of equality, as well by jer ne ocean of life with fuccels feaion, as by the Spirit of the Bri: apparen

apparenily more than human and in castiprion, I beg leare, my

tame,"

when on ihe very ere of conducting thority for allerring, that we would into harbour, the triuniphant veftci allow the King a veto, and tbus make of his patriotism, then Sailing down lin * “ virtually" the Head of our the friendly stream with swelling Church-ah! Milner, Milner, was canvass, on which were fixed the the universal cry throughout the land, eyes of an admiring world – unfor. have you also been joduced to join tunately for the honor of his country, the Mioilter and his “ Trilh Junto' and of human palure, littened to the of Usurpers, in ibus virtually robbing Syren voice of accursed English us of our Hierarchy, and eventually Courtiers, and was proh dolor ! of our Religion? You, whose kind dalhed to pieces agaion the rocks of offices had made us, for a moment, delusion, where he remains a fad forget all the insults and injuries wc warning to all present and future po- fuffered, at the hands of your coun. Jitical mariners, and an obje&t of the frymen, for leven hundred years !! deepest humiliation and grief to all Have you, by this heart-rending pro• that is virtuous on earth !

polal, obliged us to measure back our Wheo you saw him thus prostrate, iteps, and believe, that no sincere but fill much and justly pitied by all love, for lish honor could nd relia on account of numerous past fervj. dence in an English brealt? Such, des; without however a human voice my Lord, was the cruelty I con. 10 cbeer him when traducing his ceived to have been inflicted on the countrymeo, save what issued from Re igious feelings of every Irish Ca. the foul lips of the whippers.in of tholic of “ common sense and com. 98. "This,” cried out your Lord. mon candour," who saw the honor Ship, alluding to his insurrection and of his “ Church in danger," from Arms Ads, “ this is the blow that the insidious attacks of « a leading reached the heart of every lich Ca. Junta," who had formerly so far im. ibolic whom I conversed with”- pored on one exemplary Bishop, as when he heard that even Graicao had to induce him to tell bis Rock, in a consented to disturb his midnight's Pastoral Letter an affertion Aaliy relt, and that of his fainily, and to contradicted by the very words of make his house a prison to him dur. Our late Pecition,) that “ Irishmen ing Gxtcen of the twenty-four hours are no longer strangers in their native in winter he indignantly exclaimed, land ;'' -- and, in another document Et tu, Brute?

of the same kind, to call on his coun· Aod when your great character trymen, in the true spirit of active was coupled with the bale proposal loyalty, to tura informers against in question, without having publicly each other, and thus restore national contradicted it for two whole months, tranquillity! (a thing we daily expected with the This, my Lord, although, pepo

greatest anxiety, and to which we haps, unknown to you, is notorious | conceived we had a just right) when in Ireland : and it is equally notorie

you, my Lord, our darling favou • ous that another Prelate, no less dir. site, whose name I had fondly hoped unguished for the pure& virtue, be. to see handed down to posterity, al- loved by all who knew him, but by molt identified with that of Irish- pone more than his own Clergy (the mao ; when you, whom the nation very best criterion whereby to judge So far idolized, that not even a child of the Christian humility, brotherly could be found in it to lisp the name love, and real worth requilite in the of Milner, without the greatest ve character of an Ecclefiaftical Supeneration ; when you, I say, were - Mr. Poulonby's very words in der quoted by Mr. Ponsonby as his an reported speech.

rior), was induced, through the fame mental to an Acatholic King's oka baleful influence, to give his fanction taining any p: wer or 'influence over to “ a deed without a name"

any part of the Ca:holic Church diwhich has banished from the Church, rectly I ask with all due respect and perhaps, for ever, many thousands of this is what alarms the Irish Catholic. good, but weak, Catholics, who, D d vou, or did you not, in your since the time of that “ Deed to communications with Messrs. Gracthe present day never could be in- tan and Ponfondy, propose, on the duced to frequ-ne a place of worship part of the Irish Church, to invest of anv kind! Ib fe are facts, my the King, under any circumstance, Lord, which, as I have before said, with the right of a 'veto in the no. are known to every Catholic in this mination of ou" Bishop's? If the late Country, and are by them referred, ter; never was man more imperiously to their proper and genuine fource ;! called on than you are, in your own and I me town them here to point out defence, to give a prompt, diftinct the anger of any of our amiable, and formal disavowal of the whole, Prejates ever fuff ring themselves to be the consequences what they may ; bt again led away by the Court while for this is the indirect influence over pers of a few " Leaders," who are the Chu ch which we dread, as I as much the “ Rapfentatives of hare shewn in a former letter. But, the Catholic Laivyn as Giffard's if the former, which I trust is pot party in the Corporation are of the the case, how assuine a right you Citizens of Dublin, or the Junta at could not possibly have received ? For Bxyonue, the Constitutional Legisla- not a Catholic Layman, except te ture of Spain.

" Affociation of Usurpers,” ever Having thus, endeavoured to ac- entertaioed the question at all Not count for my motives and feelings in one amongst our thoulands of infe. addreiling my letters to the worthy rior Clergy, the Itock from which Dr. V'Reilly, and for holding up to our future hierarchy must be taken, public reprobation the dark and Anti- not even our Vicars General ever Catholic system now acted upon by heard of the measure, until they the wretched leven of the † fixty read it with indignation in the public eight- a leven on which some new prints. - And I know many of our master (a few penfioned and expec. Bishops, who fo far from having been tant Lawyers with their dupes has consulted on the merits of the cafe, fermented, and foured the very sweets declare openly, they never heard of of social life from the days of the it, until after the debates on the Ca. Catholic Convention to the present tholic Quastion !! So, that through. hour. - A faction who, as I said in out the super abundant population my first letter to Dr. O'Reilly, and of poor, but Catholic Ireland, not one as I Mall prove more fully hereafier, out of a thousand could be found are the last men in the Catholic Body, who, on being told of the alternative, wnosc advice ought to be attended to would not instantly exclaim “ Perilla in any thing that concerns its honor Tities, Pensions, and Places, nay, or its iore: est. I hall now proceed perish Emancipation itself- live our to the point at issue, Itripped of every Hierarchy, unblemished for ever, the thing extraneous or unnecessary; and, guardian genius of Erin's faith.” far from supposing it possible, my Juy 30th, 1898.' SARSFIELD. Lord, that you could be “ inftru. The name of former Junta *

* Vide Lord Hardwick's speechea his equally patriotic, se ne of shule momebor Holt ministerial Bike

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