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from denying the prerogative of the Crown. gentlemen ought no to trust too much to The appointment of ministers was one of their temper; it might forsake them in its undoubted prerogatives but those mini- the debate, after such provocation as they fters mult prituls the confidence of that received : The melTage which had been House. Thai Houle was the guardian of this day delivered from the King, was, in the public treasure, the holder of the pub- effect, a declaration on the part of his Mafic purss, and should they grant fupplies to jelty, that he would not coinply with the minisiers in whom they had no conndence. Withes of his Commons: it ivas a com. Almost all the inoney voted by that Houte plete negative to all they looked for. was voted in confidence; the army, the However, he did not with to give vent navy, the ordnance, every thilling was then to his feelings ou chat head; he would granted in confidence. Could the mini- paulc for a while, the delay of a couple fter then expe St that the House wouid im- of days might operate a change in the mind mediately proceed to vote a fupply; he of his Majcity and of his Ministers : The must surely imayine that before the Com- gracious head of the illustrious House of mons cuid gratify his expectations on Brunrivick would not long leave his faiththat head they must forget the incilage ful Commons a prey to the amfiction which they had just received, they musi lose ever they must feel ai ihe mellage which had ry feate of their own honour and of their been received from him, such as had neconfequence in the conftitution. He was ver been tent before by a Prince of his ilof opinion 'tline the rigiit of that House in lustrious houle, to the Commons of Enrefufius fupplies ought very rarely it ever gland. He would therefore propose a deto be resorted to, and in cases only of the lay of two days; the nature of the supply most unfurmountable difficulties 'bet to now called for by the Board of Ordnance poftpone a supply for a while was not to was by no means preting; a delay of a tally and ulumately to refuse it, and there few days, or of a weck, could not in that might be cales in which it was wite for the depariment of the public be attended with Houle to pause a little before they proceed the smallest inconvenience; but the delay ed to vote it. If ever Tuch a cale existed of two days, or even of one day, might it was the present; for, in the very mo. be the means of averting calamities, the ment that the House had been insulted by very idea of which tilled him with horror. a message which his Majesty had been so He faid it had been the object of the preill advised as to fend, it was called upon to lent Ministry to render that House insignivote a supply.

ficant and to cítablish it as a principle that He wished therefore for time to reflect; their confidence was nyt effential to minihe wished for a delay to consider; he wish: fters. He must ever maintain the reverse ed for time to digest the message he had of this doctrine. Filled with these ideas, heard; and to let his indignation cool; he he ftill willed for a union and for a strong would no: truft his own temper, to pro- administration whose bafis muti be the cono ceed this day to the consideration of that filence of that House and of the people. disgraceful message; nor ought even the Such a union had been strongly recomHouse to trust itlelf; he was afraid that mended by some of the most respectable their resolves at this momene would be too members of that House, and a resolution intemperate ; dictated more by their re- had been unanimoully voted that it was lentinent and indignation, than by that ablolutely necessary. But as it was a unio calm firmoels, which ever attends the cool on upon principle, that could alone be dedeliberations of a wife assembly: he with fireable, did not the Right Hon. Gentleed to preserve temper and moderation ; man throw an infurmountable obftacle in and therefore intended moving to poftpone the way, hy standing upon grounds, that bringing up the report.

muft neceffarily prevent all union? For Affairs now wore a serious aspect, and surely no union could possibly exist bethe House ought not to take a fingic step tween the Right Hon. Gentleman and him, that was not marked with unexampled mo when one of them laid it down as a prinderation ; he would recommend even the ciple, that a Minister might hold his place extreme of moderation ; for in a con- againft the opinion of Parliament, merely flict like the present, where they had to because there was no law to declare it cri. contend for the very existence of the con minal in him fo to do; while the other as ftitution, for all that was dear to English- firmly maintained that no minister could, men, whosc ancestors had, at the hazard or ought to stand, who did not enjoy the of their lives, settled it on what they fond. confidence of Parliament, or more partily imagined a permanct and folid basis; cularly of the House of Commons. If

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they both agreed on this point, then other would not the Right Hon. Gentleman on matters might be easily accommodated. the other side of the House follow his exBut when they differed on a principle ainple. Where then was the ground of whiclı ought to be the basis of all others, objection to a retignation for the purpose it was absolutely impossible that an union of union. If the leaders of oppolinion Ay could exist between them, while such a from their late declarations of a rcadiaels difference subfifted. He did not believe to coalesce, after he had refigned, he might that the Right Hon. Gentleman would appeal from them to the people; then he continue to differ on that point : he was Thould have his support; he should have not without hopes, that time and reflectic the support of every man in that House, would work a change in him, and con- and in the nation. But in office he could vince him that his personal honour was no not remain without danger to the constitu. way interested in the question, and that tion. confequently it ought not to stand in the The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, way of a relignation, which would at once before the Houte decided upon the predemonstrate his refpect for that House, fent question, he trusted they would maand his regard for the conftitution. He curly confider its import. He wondered hoped the House would agree with bin in not that the splendid abilities of the Right the propriety of putting off the vote of lup- Hon. Gentleman opposite to him, joined ply for forty eight hours that there might to his profetiions of prudence should have be time to rcficit deliberate and determine been able fo to obscure and veil the true upon the measures that ought to be pur- objeet of the propoled amendment. Sup. fued. Thote mea!ures he trufted would poling for a moment there was nothing be founded in moderation, but supported concealed under it, what did it go to? with, firmneis, he concluded with mov The Right Hon. Gentleman had expressly ing ihat the ord now be left out of the desired the House to do nothing, and that qucfiion, and pe words on Friday next in a case where a fupply was actually neinscried in its room.

cesary. With regard to the grand conitituMr. Eden seconded the amendment. tional queftion, whether that Houfe had

Mr. Powys approved of the aincndment, or had not a right to refule Supplies in and applauded M. Fox's moderation. cases of great public danger, he would The vote he thould give that night he not be the man to deny the existence of doubled nor would subiect hiin to calum- such a right. The only thing that could ny and cenfuic, but fatisted he was pur- be matter of question was, whea and what ring the true interest of his country, he grounds of necellity it might be proper and would with pleasure facrifice every perfo- juttifiable to use it upon. Were the House nal consderation. He then adverted to ripe to say that it ought to be used then? the anfirer which he said was inconclusive His Majesty's not having dismissed his and merely a fuement by the minister, not Minifers, because that House, without a a message from the Crown to that Housc. trial had thought proper to condemn them, What likelihood was there then that fuch he fhould contend was no reason whatever an administration as the House had unani- for calling it into exercise. Every man mously refolved to be neceffary would be he observed, would come reluctantly to formed. Hc law little indeed from the the question, and no man would vote for answer that had heen given, but fill he ir, unless convinced it was a duty he was not without hopes that the resolutions owed his country. would be reconsidered and the wishes of On the subject of union, he spoke very the House gratified. Rumour said that his explicitly and faid his wishes had been finMajesty's wishes were for a strong admini- cere for that object, and he was ftill ready ftration, and that he had the goodness to to comply with the wishes of the House sa interpose in order to bring about a confe- general, if, as he had often said, aa union rence between the Right Hon. Gentleman upon principle and honour could be efand a noble Duke. If to his Majesty de- fected. With regard to resigning, in oro served the thanks of the House. He wish. der to negotiate for the formation of a led the Right Hon. Gentleman to state ministry, in which he might be admitted what were the real bars to an vaion which to a share, he never could think of it for a cvery body wished for. Did the India moment. The feelings of honour could bill still alarm him? The Right Hon. not be sacrificed. There were subjects Gentieman below liien had professed him. upon which men could not even talk with felf ready to gratify even the prejudices of a friend, and therefore he should not prethe public with respect to that, and why sume to trouble the House with an attempt

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Lo describe them; but this he was prepar- this was the first time fince the accession of ed to say, that whether it were to be called the House of Bruntwick, that the Compride or obkinacy, or whatever other term ions of England had received a refusal to the malice or calumny of the invidious any requett lent up to the Crown ;-he and malevolent might annext to it, he ne was doubly forry that luch a refulal should ver would quit his office, merely to have come from lo ainiable a Prince as our gociate.

Respecting what the Hon. Gen- present moft gracious Sovereigo; and that Eleman had suggested in his speech, rela it should have been in his reign the first tive to the rumour of his Majesty's hav- face the acccision of the Hanoverian line, ing interfered to effect the purposes of the that the House of Commons had ever relolutions. The rumour, he said, was thought of postponing the Supply. Sorry undoubtedly true; his Majesty had been he was that the advice of Minister's had noc ready to submit on his part a plan of a per- fuffered the House to express its gratimanent administration, and had endea- cude to chat gracious Sorereigo who had voured to bring about a conference

bc- thielded the Houle from the enmity of tween a noble Duke and himfeli. This those who fo often petitioned for the ditioluplan Mr. Pite laid was the belt calculated tion of the two lalt Parliaments; but forry for union of any that had been devised, as he was that all this should happen, he fince it did not proceed on the idea of the was still more forry that duty to the conftiprelet ministry's going out of office, but tution called upon the Houte, not indeed was profetiedly a plan for a new, broad to refute the Suppy (though he was not and permanent Adminiftration. The im one of those who thought the House might pediitertioihu furtherance of this plan not do it) but himply iw suspend it. had noi lain with lum, but with the other Lord Nugent declared himself an avowparty, the nobie Duke in queftion having ed enemy to the amendment, believing rcfuicd in iic first place to have any con it to be big with the most disastrous eference with him previous to his refigna

He gare a short history of the option, and fecondly, refuling to treat, un.. position to Sir Robert Walpole, when he lets his Majesty would first fend for him

was a young man ; the withholding che and give him authority to form an Admi- fupply, he laid, appeared to him and to niáration. These were conditions that the young memb.rs who intended to have could not be complied with, because they fupported him on that occafion, fo defpecould neither rengo io put them:iclves in rate a measure, that though they all the power of any cihier fet of men, nor thought that Sir Robert Walpole was the could they depend upon them for a bare father of corruption, and a most infamous in any ministry.

minifter, yer they agreed sooner to support Mr. Fox role to reply. He declared such a minister than let the supply be postthe Duke of Portland had not obiected to poned. He concluded with wishing to lea the conference through any principles of an end of all divisions ; to see the right his own, but as a principle of the House honourable gentleman over the way reof Commons, to which he held himself fored to his office : his transcendent awilibound to pay the utmost deference. As tics would be of great use in administratito the Duke's having delired to have bis on ; in opposition they did infinite preMajefty's authority to act in the business, judice. the reason was obvious; without such an The Solicitor-General was against the moauthority there could be no fafety, no con tion : he said the Right Hon. Gentleman fidence. He charged Mr. Pite with Aying (Mr. Fox) had said that this was the first in the face of the refolutions, and laid it time fince the Revolution, that the Crown was no degradation to him, or tv any mi- had refused to comply with the desire of nister to give way to the House.

the House of Commons. (here there was a Lord North rated the obstinate refusal cry of no, no, from the opposite fide) But of Mr. Pitt to sefign, as the only bar 10 Mr. Solicitor General full maintained that the union so much called for, and contrast- the Right Hon. Gentleman had used the ed his conduct with that of the other par. expression; and he would prove to him ty, who were ready to meet even the that it was not founded in fact : for the wishes of the minority of that House, and House of Commons in the reign of King called upon the House to determine where Willian, once addrelied the Prince to rethe obstacle lay. With respect to the mo move from his presence and councils for tion then before the House, for amending ever, Lords Somers and Halifax, and the the original motion, he lamented the cause Earls of Portland and Oxford. The King that produced this necessary effc&t. As topk no notice of the address for above a

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month, after which an answer, by no between the right honourable gentleman means fatisfactory was given. The House and a noble duke. With regard to the proceeded, on the 13th of May, 1701, to second, declaring the continuance of the address his Majesty, a lecond time, to pray present administration to be an obstacle to him to give a more effe&tual answer to their that, the declaration of the right honourrequett'; and to the second address the able gentleman that day, he thought was King replied, that lie would not disinils a Cuficient answer ; for he saw no rcason his Ministers. What was the confe- whatever for the right honourable gentlequence ? Did the House proceed to stop the man's resigning. He complimenced Mr. Supplies? The very reverse: for, on the Fox on his abilities. He said he believed day after this fiat negative was given by his ambition was to do good and that he the Crown to the requitition of the Com- had it in his power to do a great deal to moos they voted the ordinary supply for save his country, but withed he would let guards and garritons.

others participate in the glorious work of Mr. Erskine said that the learned gentle- falvation. He said, if the argument preman, in order to make a display of his vailed, that the House had a right to negareading in the Journals, had insisted, that tive the King's nomination of Minitters, a right honourable gentleinan (Mr. Fox) while it was admitted on all hands that it had said what he did not say, or what it was the undoubted prorogative of the Crown he did say, heininediately checked him- to name its own Ministers, it was reducing felfin : for he did not say absolutely that the prerogatives of the Prince upon the this was the first time since the revolution, throne to a mere Nate of empty pageantry, that the crown had given a flat refusal to and putting them upon the fooring of Gothe request of the Commons; but having vernor Sancho's feast, serving them up faid it so at first, he infantiv corrected withi pomp, and 'announcing their names himielf hy saying, " at least since the ac- in form, in like manner as the dishes were cetion of the House of Hanover.” The set before the Governor of Barataria, but learned Gentleman might therefore have not suffering the King to exercise any one 1pared himself the trouble of producing a of them, any more than Sancho was perprecedent to prove, what no body had mitted to taste and enjoy the viands that denied,

were brought to his table.' This was trealIn the course of his speeclı, he justified the ing his Majesty shamefully. It was Refolutions of the House against the Mi To keep the word of promise to his ear, nisters, from the famous work of Lord And break it to his hope. Somers, written in antwer to the declar. He hoped that union so carnestly desired ation of King Charles the Second, to the would be effected, but he thought it expeople of England, on the Diffolution of tremely wrong to stop the supplies, and he the Parliament in 1681mteading several could consider the present amendment in passages, which took up the distin&tion be- no other light. tween impeachments to punish, and Ad Mr. Scotl spoke against the amendment. dresses and Refolutions to remove Minif. He acknowledged the great authority of

The firft requiring accusation and the House, and that if they infifted Ministrial--the lait resting on that opinion which ters fhould go out they must go. If they may depend upon matters palpable and were to resign for the purpose of negotialcertain, though beyond the reach of legal ing he should not be forry, but if it was proof, and which may be destructive of all merely for the purpose of gratifying the confidence though not a foundation for vanity of the other lide of the House, or punishment.

to lower the present Minister in the eltimaSir William Dollen declared himself a tion of the public, he would advise them friend to the original motion. · The an not to think of a reggnation ; at preless swer that had been that day given as the they had the people on their side, many import of his Majesty's determination re- of whom in the addresses to the throne, fpecting the two refólutions hie conceivel spoke very different language from that to be proper and such as ought to be satis- of their representatives in that House. factory. To the first resolution, that dc The question was called for and the claring it to be the opinion of the House, House divided, that there ought to be a firm, efficient, For the amendment extended, united administration, it was Against it plain his Majesty had been graciously Majority for postponing the repleased to attend, having had the good port of the supply till Friday cess to endeavour to procure a conference When the House was resumed,

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Mr. Powys after a short speech, moved day the Lords were ordered to be fum" that this House impressed with the most moned, and the House adjourned to that dutiful sense of his Majesty's paternal re- day. gard for the welfare of his people, relies on his Majesty's royal wisdom to take fuch measures, as may tend to give effect to the HOUSE of COMMONS. wishes of his faithful Commons, which

Thursity, February 19. bave beert most humbly reprefented to his Majesty, and which his Majesty has been

Mr. Powys gave notice, that he would graciously pleased to assure this House, to-morrow before the House proceeded to that he will take into his consideration.”

vote the supply, move a timilar motion to After a thort conversation Mr. Powys that which he moved last night, which he withdrew his motion, and at half past would endeavour to model in fuch a way, iwelve o'clock the House adjourned.

as to remove the ambiguity to which that motion feemed liable in the opinion of

fome gentlemen. HOUSE of LORD S. A Short conversation took place respecte Thursday, February 19.

ing the vote of last night, one party con

tending that the gentlemen on the other Lord Efingham made some observations lide had withheld the supplies, and those on the resolutions passed in the House of gentlemen positively declaring that they Commons on Monday last, and comment never meant to withhold them, but had ed upon the report of the Committee ap- voted for the postponement of a single pointed to search the Journals for prece supply for two days. dents.

The refolutions, he observed, The state of the nation was deferred till were of an alarming nature, and to what Monday next, and at five o'clock the length they meant to go he was unable to Houfe adjourned till to-morrow. conjecture. The majority, he observed, was a very small one, and he doubted not

Friday, February 20. but a sufficient number of them to turn

of the scale, would shortly recover their senses.

Lord Bathursi, on whose motion the Mr. Powr's obferved, that it had been Lords were suinmoned said, that as the 'imputed to the majority on the division of business which he meant to introduce was Wednesday last, that they had absolutely of

great importance, it would be proper refused the fupply. This he positively to give some intimation of its nature, pre- denied to be a fa&t; he never considered vious to its being brought forward. The that the idea of an absolute refufal, had motion he had intended to make, respected even for a moment been entertained by the reports made by the Commiffioners of any one of the majority. For himself hc Accounts; by these reports matters were could speak with certainty; and he begbrought forward which called aloud for ged from candour what he flattered himreformation.

On the eighth, tenth, and self he had a right to demand from justice,' cleventh reports he intended to make some to be permitted to put his own fense on observations, in order to ground some his conduct, and to give his words that motion to be approved of by the Houfe. meaning which it was intended they : To give them therefore, an opportunity tould convev. In the motion he should' of considering fully the importance of the shortly have the honour of laying before subject, he would delay cntcring upon it the Houic, though he acted in fome fort until Thursday, when he should with the in concert, he acted, not in confequence of House to be fummoned again.

confulting, or in concurrence with that Lord Gower thought an carlicr day respectable body of men who had stood might be appointed, and propoted Mon- forth as mediators been een the contending

parties. He ufed many arguments to Several of the Lords repeatedly preffed prove, that the intent of those with whom Lord Bachurft to state the nature of the he had concurred was not to withhold the motion or motions he meant to bring for- fupplies; for his own part, he faid, fo far ward, but his lordship declined giving was he from intending to stop the Tupply any explanation. In compliance however, with a view to refuse it, that if the propowith Lord Gower's with he agreed to fition which he was about to submit to the bring it forward on Monday, for which confideration of the Ilouse should be ac

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